Sven Slootweg (soft-deprecated) @joepie91@pixie.town

@silvermoon82 @donnodubus @festal I wonder if this is going to be one of those cases where an organization assumes "oh we can deal with that, we have the volunteer capacity" and then goes surprised pikachu face when said volunteers jump ship entirely because they never signed up for this

@wgahnagl I can't speak for others of course, but any time I've tried to communicate "I'm offended" to someone who wasn't at least vaguely leftist or in that ideological ballpark, it has basically resulted in a response of "well you should just ignore me then" and considering the case closed on their end 😐

I wonder if this can explain the "people not saying they're offended" more broadly

@tastytea@very.tastytea.de Also fuck Klarna with a rake

@tastytea@very.tastytea.de If you have a copy in writing of having proposed that (ideally letter, e-mail would probably also be fine in NL but idk about there) then that *should* serve as pretty strong evidence to make debt collectors fuck off, but it's never a guarantee unfortunately :( If there's some kind of free legal help thing where you are, it may be worth asking them for better advice on the legal angle

@tastytea@very.tastytea.de If I remember correctly, Klarna is a predatory business and they literally get their money from fees tacked onto late payments and defaults, so they have every reason not to cooperate, unfortunately - the only strategy I know of that has sometimes worked for people is to offer them a clearly reasonable payment schedule and have it in writing, so that when they reject or ignore it you can fight any attempts at debt/fee collection later by showing that it was Klarna who did not take their responsibilities - "look, I did all I could, but they did not let me pay"

@eniko I feel like it's probably subject to the same issue as almost every other "how to be successful at anything" guide; people have difficulty recognizing the role that luck and other factors like privilege played in their success and would much rather believe that it somehow entirely resulted from their own competence and actions, than to acknowledge that really the "common" (read: capitalist) notion of "success" is ultimately just a lottery no matter what you do

@delroth @hazelnot lmfao

@hazelnot @delroth The adjacency does typically exist here as well, and it does often historically center around larger places (at least larger at the time) but at a certain scale and certain amount of municipality merges, that doesn't have very much relevance or resemblance left :p

@hazelnot @delroth (Which means that some municipalities are comically large and aren't necessarily named after any one of the towns or cities therein, because they tend to get scaled by "population count at which government and admin can be efficiently conducted" rather than anything else, so many small mostly-unrelated towns are likely to group together into a municipality for example)

@hazelnot @delroth It falls under the *municipality* of Rotterdam, yes, but that is absolutely *not* the same thing as being part of Rotterdam's metro/urban area. Municipalities are primarily government-administrative boundaries, not planning or cultural boundaries.