@weirdwriter @tobi the pausing might actually be due to the shortcode's colons being included in the alt attribute, we should probably strip that so they read more naturally
@weirdwriter @tobi huh, I wonder what NVDA is doing there, could it be weird because it has both a title, and an alt attribute with the custom emoji name?
With TalkBack it reads fine as "coffee pot, graphic". They're currently just image elements in-line with the rest of the text, nothing special, so quite odd.
Will look at the headings, easy enough to change the element as I can style them visually to be the same as they are now
I removed the custom CSS for my profile for now to show off the work @f0x did on the GoToSocial web view for profiles. Go open this in your browser, and go 'ooh' and 'ahhh' and 'woooo', and also 'hunnnhhhhhhhh'!
@schratze so I shouldn't do this?
@kim what if instead of just cat café's there were cat hotels
@Houl but instead they just beepy
re: Help with Linux Screenreaders
@dangero yep.. Odilia seemed quite promising, keeping an eye on that for sure
It has been proven repeatedly that platforms prioritizing growth over safety are toxic to everyone else who doesn't present as white, straight, and a man.
No, I'm not going to debate it anymore. No, I don't care if people think I'm wrong to center safety in my dev efforts because I can live with it going sideways if that happens.
But in my experience as a dev and a citizen of the web for more than two decades, the missing link to rehumanizing social media spaces is safety for the most marginalized people that have historically been ignored.
And I'm going to create around that ethos.
I'm going to repeat this so it's clear.
If the fedi fractures around the ideological lines of safety vs. unsustainable growth, I'm okay with that.
I am very comfortable with being part of the fedi that actually gives a shit about people rather than treating them as product.
I have no interest in repeating the same mistakes and creating decentralized rage engines.
I believe this space can be better.
re: Help with Linux Screenreaders
@Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net right, might just have to dust off a windows vm instead then 🙄
From my understanding Orca just doesn't recognize any kind of landmarks/tree structure at all, and so it's practically useless for my testing because I can already see the same visible text it reads..
Odilia seems interesting, gonna try a build of that then
Help with Linux Screenreaders
For better accessibility testing of the software I build, I've started testing more with screen readers.
On Android, enabling and using TalkBack is relatively straightforward, but for testing on my desktop, Orca is completely unusable.
I have a brand new Debian VM with GNOME, and Orca enabled, but actually using it in firefox just barely works. TalkBack has a nice workflow with highlighted elements that you move between as you read the page, but Orca seems delegated to using caret browsing and reading whatever your cursor is on? Am I missing shortcuts (which are also a pain, because the modifier can only be caps-lock or insert, not really conveniently placed)
Am I missing something, or is this the state of #Accessibility on #Linux?
Also the tts quality is very poor, which would make this even worse for any prolonged testing, but maybe there are alternative engines?
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