Sven Slootweg (soft-deprecated) @joepie91@pixie.town

@bram Honestly any claim that "the Netherlands ain't that racist or xenophobic" is immediately disqualified by virtue of the PVV and FvD continuing to exist with meaningful seats

@dvzrv@chaos.social (To clarify, I think there are several legitimate criticisms in the article, especially around transparency - I just don't understand how it's meant to coalesce into a single point)

@dvzrv@chaos.social I have to admit that I'm slightly confused about the nature of this article.

It seems to imply that NGI is breaking some sort of principle of neutrality, but I've never known NGI as an organization that *claims* to be neutral to begin with? I've always seen it communicated as having a subjective selection round. Maybe they claim neutrality somewhere, but I missed it?

Is the argument here that it shouldn't have subjective selection? Because then the article doesn't seem to do much by way of providing arguments for that (or reasoning about how true neutrality would even be possible here).

Is the argument that the subjective selection should be on the basis of different judgment criteria? Because the article doesn't seem to provide any explanation of how it should be judged instead, and why.

Is it just meant as a heads-up for people working on non-Nix package managers that applying for a grant is unlikely to succeed? Because then I don't understand why there's all the focus on a "conflict of interest" - it seems that a much shorter article would suffice.

So I genuinely don't understand what point the article is trying to make here exactly?

(I do think that rejecting a grant application with a generic message is not really okay, but that seems to be a separate issue from what the rest of the article talks about.)

@ben Oh and also it just *feels* fast and pleasant to use

@ben At least for mod installing/uninstalling/etc.: OpenTTD.

- It isn't the fucking Steam Workshop with its horrendous version compatibility handling
- It Just Works
- It can automatically enable or disable relevant mods for specific saves or multiplayer servers, without requiring a game restart

@thcrt (Also, removing leaves from large garden areas wrecks the local ecosystem anyway)

@thcrt This is the Netherlands, "large gardens" are not really a thing here

@aeva To quote the venerable eevee:

"What’s less great is a team of highly-paid and highly-skilled people all using Chrome on a recent Mac Pro, developing in an office half a mile from almost every server they hit, then turning around and scoffing at people who don’t have exactly the same setup."

@Photorat Yeah, that's entirely fair. I hope you'll find enough people to make it work :) Good luck!

@aeva Ah, I thought you were saying that someone was actively *advising* that the limit should be 10 minutes, which would be... even more absurd than it being that in practice

@Photorat Looking into it a bit further, what I've found so far:

- Mobilizon groups can be followed from eg. Mastodon to get updates: https://docs.joinmobilizon.org/use/users/follow-federation/

- But you cannot participate in other ways from Mastodon: https://framacolibri.org/t/integration-with-mastodon/16446

- It does not seem specified whether you can use one Mobilizon account to fully participate on another Mobilizon instance (but the way the rest of the documentation is written, it seems to imply you can't: https://docs.joinmobilizon.org/use/administration/federation/)

- You *can*, however, open a group for 'anonymous' participation, so that people can sign up for events without an account at all. This seems to be limited to registering your participation in an event, however.

So I think that if you want everyone fully 'on board', and able to fully participate in the group, they would probably all need an account on the specific instance that the group exists on.

@aeva ... ten minutes??? Surely that was meant to say 'seconds'? Right?

@Photorat I haven't had an opportunity to try it myself yet, but I've seen people talk about using Mobilizon for this somewhat regularly - it seems to be fedi-based group/event organizing software. Might be worth looking into?

(Of course that doesn't answer the "is anyone interested" part of the question!)

@hazelnot Wait, why are there leaves on your living room carpet