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@ailnoth I think it's a bit more nuanced than that - they don't seem to be vying for direct central control exactly, but rather running an influence campaign to discourage defederation.

Those motivations seem credible - from a freeze peach perspective, defederation is a thing to avoid, and to convince others not to do.

@scanlime Hmm. Anything you're looking at in particular? Browsing through their site a bit, it seems a bit more like 'reclaiming the idea of a metaverse to mean an actually interoperable ecosystem', but maybe there's something I'm missing.

re: meta, FediBlock, long :boost_requested:​ 

@bram Oh yes, absolutely. I'm also Dutch, so I'm very familiar with that issue... :/

re: meta, FediBlock, long, added ccontex 

@erincandescent@queer.af Or in other words, this is basically the equivalent of those guys we all know who are shitty to people in a chat for months, eventually get banned, and then claim "I've been banned for saying one word and that's unfair!" after it being repeatedly explained to them that their pattern of behaviour was the problem.

re: meta, FediBlock, long, added ccontex 

@erincandescent@queer.af Right, that's the "single user" I was referring to. And indeed this is not the actual reason why they're fediblocked at all, as has been explained to them over and over.

I can therefore only read his claim as one in bad faith - he has had every opportunity to understand the *actual* reason for the blocks, and taken none of them, instead choosing to perpetuate his own narrative.

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#FediBlock disqordia.space for all of the above too

https://rage.love/@puf/108829477530153878
https://akko.disqordia.space/objects/860e8741-3c75-4465-8706-28807c6f9745 (related to above post)
and many more too, just hunt around and find it

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Spinster markets itself as a feminist instance, but it's a TERF instance; One of the older ones, co-started by Alex Gleason, defederated by so many of us so long ago that I rarely see it brought up any more.

If you're an admin of a new instance, and you value keeping the trans people on your platform safe, #FediBlock spinster.xyz.

Receipt: This is one of their mods. Check the pinned toot. spinster.xyz/@Vaishax

my favorite UI is just displaying "spinner" and forgetting to put something nice there

re: meta, FediBlock, long :boost_requested:​ 

@RGrunblatt "Jeffrey doesn't mock pronouns in his bio, it's just a joke."

Wow.

re: meta, FediBlock, long :boost_requested:​ 

@starfall I haven't been able to determine whether it's malice or just your usual centrist ignorance, but they did not see a fundamental problem with "the trans debate" and frankly that's enough for me to draw a conclusion here about their views on speech.

meta, FediBlock, long :boost_requested:​ 

Well, apparently it's time to talk about QOTO again. Sigh. They've now started a "cancel culture"-themed disinformation campaign under the name of "United Federation of Instances" (gitlab.com/ufoi/constitution/-).

Their claim, once you poke through all the lofty wording, is essentially that defederation is "out of control" and that's proven by them getting defederated from other instances over the behaviour of a single user that they banned.

Just one problem: that is complete bullshit. They were defederated for many reasons (some receipts attached) that had nothing to do with that users, and everything to do with their moderation policies or rather lack thereof.

A couple of weeks ago, they mass-mailed instances asking them to unblock their instance, with the same sob story. They claim that they did this by the book, "only manually contacting instances with published contact information".

The reality is that their e-mails clearly weren't appreciated by many instance admins (who had blocked them for very good reason), and that they also clearly hadn't looked at the block *reasons* on the instances which blocked them.

They were told all of this, repeatedly, by many different people (including me), through multiple different platforms. Yet they continue to claim in their UFI "proposal" that it was just about that one user, and everything was by the book.

No mention of any of these issues whatsoever. No mention of how they were effectively harassing instance admins who very clearly wanted nothing to do with them. Not even so much as a private apology.

Their "proposal" also includes some very problematic wording that I can only read as politically conservative norms of moderation (and I hopefully don't need to explain why that is bad). Again, receipts attached.

This whole thing reminds me a lot of the Libre Monde misinformation in the Matrix community. That document was likewise very formally written, and managed to convince a lot of people of things that were somewhere between misrepresented and outright false. Several years later, it continues to make the rounds, despite having been debunked over and over again.

We should be extremely careful that something similar doesn't happen here. They seem to be taking a similar "make it look official" approach to spreading misinformation, and there are entirely too many people who will happily believe anything that looks official...

If you didn't have qoto.org blocked yet, this would probably also be a good moment to consider that.

And the rest of the contributor list may also be worth a look: gitlab.com/ufoi/constitution/- - I don't know whether the non-QOTO folks just bought into misinformation or are deliberately spreading it themselves, but either way something probably needs to be done about that.

And let's all keep an eye on where this goes, please, so that it doesn't become a long-term source of harassment.

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@scanlime I've had the displeasure of talking to them elsewhere and uhhhh let's just say that they absolutely should not be unblocked

@scanlime Oh and it's also the guy who has been harassing instances that have them blocked for aforementioned abusive behaviour

@scanlime I mean, that *is* the instance that got fediblocked all over the place for assorted abusive and fascist-adjacent behaviour

@AgathaSorceress@eldritch.cafe Not to mention how they have blatantly violated people's consent with their business models not one, not two, but at least *three* separate times

@gmc Seems like Inkscape would be an easier choice for this? It being vector-y stuff and all. There's probably even a ready-made SVG for Mastodon on Wikimedia Commons somewhere.

@halfy Sounds like a scare-quotes "promotion" maybe? More responsibilities without more compensation.

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