re: Twitter, toxicity
@Stealcase @welshpixie Reading the conversation around this over on the Twitter side, I'm frankly unconvinced that a different policy would have helped any here.
Approximately nobody in the replies or QTs has asked for more context about what happened - they're all taking the person at their word that it was "censorship of art". The clarification posted in one of the subthreads by someone else, has been mostly ignored.
This is exactly the "looking for a fight" dynamic that I've seen *so often* on Twitter, where some popular vocal person makes an accusation and all of their followers blindly follow it and start harassing the target, retroactively justifying things as necessary.
IME, you can't do anything against that sort of behaviour. They'll consider *whatever* slight against them to be grounds for harassment, whether it's a (temp) ban or a warning. If they were given a warning, I very much doubt they'd be crying "censorship" any less.
re: Twitter, toxicity
@welshpixie I think this is probably a universal experience among (harm-prevention-oriented) community moderators... I certainly recognize it from my moderation duties outside of fedi as well
Twitter, toxicity
People who get banned for having attitude *always* behave in a way, afterwards, that assures me I did the right thing in keeping them from the community.
You can keep that shit on Twitter, thanks.
@nova@hachyderm.io It may be worth posting a "request for offers" on LowEndSpirit - there's mostly small providers hanging around there that can often do custom requirements. Likewise there's LowEndTalk, but that's a considerably less friendly place nowadays, unfortunately. Both have a reasonable chance of success especially for a community service, though.
The thing about Twitter is that it really lacks a lot of the features you'd expect from a true Mastodon replacement.
For example, there's no way to edit your toots (which they, confusingly call "tweets"—let's face it, it's a bit of a silly name that's difficult to take seriously).
"Tweets" can't be covered by a content warning. There's no way to let the poster know you like their tweet without also sharing it, and no bookmark feature.
There's no way to set up your own instance, and you're basically stuck on a single instance of Twitter. That means there's no community moderators you can reach out to to quickly resolve issues. Also, you can't de-federate instances with a lot of problematic content.
It also doesn't Integrate with other fediverse platforms, and I couldn't find the option to turn the ads off.
Really, Twitter has made a good start, but it will need to add a lot of additional features before it gets to the point where it becomes a true Mastodon replacement for most users.
re: more meta (embrace, extend, extinguish)
@probgoblin @ajroach42 It's going to depend heavily on the culture - a federated system alone is not enough.
What killed XMPP, for example, was not just Google adopting it for GTalk, but that being lauded by much of the community as "XMPP is mainstream now!", resulting in people using GTalk to chat on XMPP because it was the most usable/accessible client, and so once GTalk got deprecated, that pretty much instantly killed the whole network.
The two crucial errors there were a) Google was accepted as a desirable network participant, and b) non-Google clients were insufficiently accessible. As long as those mistakes are avoided, fedi does stand a good chance of surviving EEE.
We're all a bunch of anarchists, I don't make the rules (we all do)
The fediverse is the promise of a liberated media that the Videofreex and The Raindance Corporation foresaw in the 60s and 70s, that the Culture Jammers demanded in the 80s and 90s.
This is mutual aid, this is anticapitalism, this is collaborative ideation.
We are living revolutionary values, right here, right now, on a silly little social media network.
And I will fight to my last breathe any God Damn corporation that tries to Monetize that.
This is the future, and you're a part of it now. Be a good steward of the future.
more meta (embrace, extend, extinguish)
But there's more!
We can ensure that the situation does not develop in to a gmail situation through cultural pressure and education.
The power of a network is in the people who use it.
If a FAANG company (MAANG? MMAAG?) tries to step in to the fediverse, we have a duty to take the fight against them out of the fediverse and in to the larger internet.
Leverage the fact that they have brought attention to us to bring attention to the fact that they have a record of killing things that work the way our thing works.
We can, all 1,000,000+ of us, make it the worst PR move of their existence.
more meta (embrace, extend, extinguish)
I'm seeing some Embrace, Extend, Extinguish hand wringing circulate this morning.
I don't want to write another blog post, folks won't stop boosting the last one.
So it's post time. I'll keep it brief.
If Google, or some other big player, shows up in this space, retro.social will defederate immediately.
Before any worrying signs, before any extensions to the standard.
I'll defederate and move on with my life.
M.S is already too big. I already have them silenced instance wide. If any existing player tries to join in with bluster, they'll find themselves banned here (and, I imagine, across 90% of the small instances.)
They still can't stop me from running my own mail server, even if they mark most of my outgoing mail as spam.
So, at the least, we're not going anywhere.
@diligentcircle @whatanerd Oof, very much a mood.
So I've known that #masto instances can shut down but I found one (that I was considering joining) in the middle of that process: cybre.space, a #cyberpunk #retrofuturist #glitchpunk instance.
The admin's decision to close up shop with an 'end-of-life' plan is written out here: https://cybre.space/~chr/cybre-space-eol
Sad but valuable info, just to know how these things go down and what they look like here on #mastodon
I think about this a lot because fedi does have A Way of getting people to embrace Goblin Mode and it's grand, people being weird internet gremlins is what makes this place fun
during one of the earlier waves of migration someone who had recently signed up posted something along the lines of "when you first arrive it's all very confusing and offputting but by the end of the day you're banging your fists on the table shouting TRAIN FUCKERS TRAIN FUCKERS TRAIN FUCKERS"
Tijd voor een paddenstoel!
Dit is de grijze slanke amaniet. Zoals je kan zien een verwant van de vliegenzwam, te zien aan de dikke witte stippen.
Van het zelfde materiaal is de volva die de paddenstoel aan de voet omringt.
#Paddenstoelen #Schimmels #AllFungiAreBeautiful #Natuur
https://determinerik.home.blog/2022/11/12/grijze-slanke-amaniet/
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