“Ultimately, if you feel strongly about not using a product, that's up to you. But trying to impose your views on others is not cool. Instead, why not try politely letting them know about your concerns in case they weren't aware, and then leave them to make up their own mind.”
https://kevquirk.com/blog/on-virtue-signalling
It seems to me that when the powerful are terrible people and the weak are trying to articulate their anger, to organize, to get a mass movement going, asking them to politely make their case and letting other people make up their mind is reprehensible. By telling people not to fight for their rights but to just politely make their point and then shut up one aligns with the powerful, one dismisses the methods of resistance.
@ClaudetteK That's why it needs to be a *culture*, though, rather than a lone individual's effort - because that's how you make it possible to engage with it honestly and without immediately engaging all defenses.
(This is not a hypothetical; I am in a community that got this right)
Personally I'd go so far as to say that a community that doesn't have this, cannot ever be healthy for me - because if it doesn't, then it's even odds that any 'calling out' is going to be of the "bigotry towards neurospicy folks" variety.
@bananas Yeah that's usually what happens with imported stuff, a translated sticker is put over it
@bananas The ingredient/nutrition/etc. label should still be in Dutch (legally)
@bananas Ah but this one wasn't multi-language, that's the odd thing 😅 It *only* had a German label
@bananas (Which also explains how a German-labelled product ended up on shelves in a Dutch store, despite the label being designed *very* differently)
@bananas Oh they are, but AFAIK that's just down to the regional office thing - every country has (AFAIK) its own national organization that's often subdivided into regional offices, and each national organization is governed more or less independently, but with shared suppliers and infrastructure (IT, logistics, etc.). So each country's Lidl is different 'enough' to adapt to the local market.
@bananas I can't find anything about this - the German wiki also only seems to list the regional office split: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidl#Unternehmen
@bananas Huh? I don't think that's right. AFAIK all of Lidl is owned by Schwarz, even though they have regional distribution offices
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