Sven Slootweg (soft-deprecated) @joepie91@pixie.town

@bananas Oh yes that is *exactly* what it means

@Sinegrave @so_treu Here you go: https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1037/ppm0000096 (note: this is technically piracy).

Didn't show up on sci-hub for the provided URL, but passing in the DOI instead worked

@colinstu I generally recommend people to pick a project they want to build, turn it into a series of increasingly complex steps, and start with the absolute simplest version of it. I've done a lot of professional tutoring (heavily self-directed) and that's the only thing I've found to work reliably for people.

For example, the final goal may be building fedi software like Mastodon, but the absolute simplest version is "page that shows a bit of text", then it becomes "page that shows a bit of text *from a database*", and so on, until eventually some day you might get to full-fledged fedi software, having learned a lot along the way.

This doesn't help if you can't find a project you want to do, of course, but I've noticed that a lot of people (sometimes subconsciously) try to limit themselves to "simple enough" projects, when really it can work with a project of *any* complexity, as long as you treat it as a learning project you may never actually finish.

I don't know if that applies in your case; if not, then my suggestion is probably equivalent to what you were already considering, and can be safely ignored :)

@joshix @benaryorg @lea@lea.pet @jessew This wouldn't have been possible; XMPP MUCs are centralized and that's not really acceptable usability-wise in a federated system where any one individual instance has a low assurance of sticking around, because if an instance dies for any reason your entire community is gone

@joshix @lea@lea.pet @jessew While that's true from the perspective of someone who *wants* to self-host their stuff, that doesn't do anything for the folks who are dependent on others to run it for them (which is going to be the majority of people even in an ideal world, because most people don't have time or interest to maintain servers).

@benaryorg @lea@lea.pet @joshix @jessew As someone who actually tried to get involved in XMPP stuff to fix these issues, and eventually jumped to Matrix: it really wasn't that simple.

Trying to get people in the XMPP ecosystem to care about usability was, in my experience, like talking to a brick wall. The vast majority of people at the time wouldn't even recognize that it's a thing that's valuable, let alone be willing to take *any* steps to improve it.

At some point you have to take your losses and create a better environment for that, which is pretty much what Matrix ended up being. The improvement of XMPP was never going to happen on any reasonable timescale purely due to cultural inertia.

@lea@lea.pet @joshix @jessew (This is understandable because it seems to be basically impossible to make a messenger with vaguely complete featureset that *doesn't* leak this metadata, for technical reasons; it's the claiming that they are somehow exempt from that that's misleading)

@lea@lea.pet @joshix @jessew As far as I've been able to determine from the scant technical documentation, sealed sender doesn't do this either and in the end still boils down to "trust us bro" (it just describes the way in which they *claim* they have made it harder for themselves to correlate, but they still have all the control needed to quietly undo that)