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@lea @joshix @jessew lately clients have become slightly less shit though. I mean.… still not peak messaging client, but at least somewhat better.
To me it still feels like all the people who could've made XMPP a better protocol with more XEPs and better implementations were those that jumped the Matrix bandwagon and it saddens me.
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@benaryorg @lea@lea.pet @joshix @jessew As someone who actually tried to get involved in XMPP stuff to fix these issues, and eventually jumped to Matrix: it really wasn't that simple.
Trying to get people in the XMPP ecosystem to care about usability was, in my experience, like talking to a brick wall. The vast majority of people at the time wouldn't even recognize that it's a thing that's valuable, let alone be willing to take *any* steps to improve it.
At some point you have to take your losses and create a better environment for that, which is pretty much what Matrix ended up being. The improvement of XMPP was never going to happen on any reasonable timescale purely due to cultural inertia.
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@joshix @benaryorg @lea@lea.pet @jessew This wouldn't have been possible; XMPP MUCs are centralized and that's not really acceptable usability-wise in a federated system where any one individual instance has a low assurance of sticking around, because if an instance dies for any reason your entire community is gone
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@joepie91 @benaryorg @lea @jessew they should've done it like whatsapp and base matrix on top of xmpp