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infosec meta, question 

So, uh. Are there any infosec instances left that *aren't* buddy-buddy with feds/cops/fascists/etc.?

re: subtoot 

@scanlime Also I am disappointed but not surprised by the *many* folks on that instance inventing an imaginary reason for the fediblock and then criticizing that, instead of, y'know, listening to the actual reasons people have been giving.

@ardaxi @whreq (Van Attema-spul zou ik verwachten dat de lokale bouwmarkt het heeft liggen, iig)

The modern German train experience of "your train is delayed, so you wouldn't make your connection. However that train is also delayed, so you'll make it" 😅😅

re: Birdsite downfall 

@stavvers@masto.ai Ahh, I'd been waiting for that particular shoe to drop.

@brainblasted Worth noting that Automattic itself does not have an entirely clean slate either; for many years, if you wanted to move your free blog away from Wordpress.com, they have been charging a *significant* recurring fee (currently $13/year) to set up a redirect.

It's definitely pretty shitty to lure people into a "free" service, and then basically hold their linked-to domain hostage by charging quite a bit of money for something that costs them virtually nothing to maintain (in fact, it would cost less than continuing to serve up the blog, which they *don't* charge you for).

Also makes any promises of long-term interoperability pretty suspect...

I have mixed feelings about the Tumblr ActivityPub thing. On one hand, that's a lot of users that will now be able to interact with our open community here, and I feel like that can be a good thing. I always felt like fedi culture and Tumblr culture were very similar too. However, a major company becoming part of the ecosystem is an entry point for companies to take over the ecosystem. I think the current owners of Tumblr are decent people, but if Automattic or Tumblr get acquired again we may end up in a situation where a company wants to take over fedi for the benefit of its shareholders.

infosec, politics 

@ava Mmm, I'd say that this issue in many ways predates the "official recognition" of infosec as a field, much of infosec history is colored by it.

For example, there's long been a problem of many in the infosec field being just straight-up power-hungry assholes, who wield their knowledge as a sort of 'weapon of dominance' over others.

Government/corporate recognition of infosec has basically just laundered those practices, as long as they are in the service of capital and oppressive power.

re: meta, government accounts on non-government servers 

@Kye@tech.lgbt The concern is less about that particular account - it is obviously identifiable - and more about what it says about someone and their trustworthiness when they are happy sharing space with oppressive actors.

subtoot, infosec 

"If these people don't want the feds to read things, they shouldn't use the internet."

That isn't the fucking point, you goddamned wet noodle.

No one is sitting here thinking that intelligence agencies can't read shit. It's that we don't want to *welcome them into our spaces*. We know where that gets us. And it's never been anywhere good.

subtoot, infosec 

Fucking dorks sitting there like THEN DON'T USE THE INTERNET.

Idk, jackass. Why don't you try to think about how we use OUR spaces? How we build things with intentionality?

Why not use your skills for actual safety and getting these fuckers *out of our lives* instead of supporting them? Unless, of course, you want the same power they have and you're working your way into that.

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Many government agencies are expressing concerns about how to communicate with the public without Twitter, especially in emergencies. Of course, it was a bad idea to become dependent on Twitter to such an extent in the first place, and no matter what happens, this needs rethinking.

@luci @david@tech.lgbt And apparently the admin of infosec.exchange is a member of Infragard too, which uhhh

@whatanerd Oh, right 😅 I missed that, definitely am not running on all cylinders today, heh

@pthenq1@mastodon.la @polymerwitch You will find that many people on here do not define the word "community" that way.

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