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Heads-up for any folks on hachyderm.io: I would recommend picking a different instance, as it seems likely that it'll get defederated from quite a few places at some point.
They seem to not only be happy with corporate accounts[1], but also apparently seek to "introduce trust with corporations" [and draw them to fedi?], which uhhhh yeah no.
This is a space for people, not for corporations. Let's not repeat the errors of the FOSS community (that eventually led to near-total corporate capture of FOSS) by inviting corporations into our spaces, not even "as long as they play nice".
[1] https://github.com/hachyderm/community/blob/main/accounts/corporate-accounts.md
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@joepie91 some people have truly learned absolutely nothing about inviting corporations into open source projects
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@hazel It's truly depressing.
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@joepie91 for fuck’s sake!!!
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@joepie91 that's disappointing, there's quite a few people in the rust community on there that I'm following but no way do i want to stay federating with an instance that hosts corps....
"This person hosts corporate emails", wtf
Go defederate with Office365 and try to feel useful
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@joepie91 I'm pretty new to Mastodon. What is the problem with having corporations in the fediverse?
As social media will always reflect society in some way, I would expect them to be part of some instance eventually. I can imagine use cases where having their helpdesk teams or money here would be useful, even.
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@stonehead I've explained the reasons a bit more here: https://social.pixie.town/@joepie91/109360136040004274
And more fundamentally, fedi doesn't need to "reflect society" at all, it's a community platform run by volunteers for their own community building and social lives. There are entire swathes of society that we'd much rather not have here at all.
The whole "must reflect society" thing is basically just Twitter's "global town square" thing, but that doesn't apply here
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@joepie91 I didn't say "must reflect" but "will reflect society". Mastodon is open source, is there anything which keeps companies from using it? And apparently Hachyderm sees possibilities - in some ways it's laudible that they at least pose conditions for companies. But this is all new to me, I think every instance will have their own considerations.
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@stonehead It's certainly possible for them to use the tech, it is open after all. But that doesn't mean that they will be accepted as part of the existing community, which is what the defederation part is about.
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@kitten I mean, in fairness, you are decidedly not corporation-friendly :p
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@joepie91 « In the Hachyderm community you will find strong capitalists and even anti-capitalists. We expect you to consider these different perspectives while creating content on Hachyderm. »
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@stragu Gee that sure sounds very, what's the word, centrist
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Can the corporate apologists kindly stop replying to this with some variation of "not all corporations are bad"?
You are not telling me anything I haven't heard a thousand times in my time on this earth, and there is a *reason* I am not considering it as a valid counterargument.
Maybe think about why that is, before assuming that I must just be clueless on the matter.