update: Searchtodon meta, scraping related
Since then multiple others have mentioned these concerns to him, but they're dismissed just the same.
Yet again a recently joined twitter techbro is writing a scraper, but this time it's couched in language about "consent" and "privacy", it's still effectively building a centralized search index across users on his single server. Opt-out is also not actually consent, both legally (GDPR) and morally.
He keeps dismissing it as just a non-ideal stopgap-solution but that doesn't matter. it's about what's happening right now. random users logging in thinking there's *anything* private about this service, and feeding their entire following to the machine
they cannot seem to appreciate the value of nestling down among a small group of friends and sharing genuine things about yourself
for real though these tech guy types seem to live in a different fucking world, where being visible + discoverable and indexed is some kind of virtue in and of itself
Just published my article/devlog about FediFox Shield, my project for a nicer public Mastodon frontend
It goes deep into some technical details I had lots of fun implementing, but also explains the overall motivation, and next steps for the project
re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related
it's kinda weird seeing how even normally more critical people are responding to this. There's a thin veneer of "consent" and "private" but his service is still building a giant searchable index across everyone who uses it. like wtf. The software has merit when part of an instance but why would there ever be a centralized setup
ah because I still had a lot of local changes I didn't push..
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re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related
also for fucks sake
> That said, I think the Mastodon community will have to have to come to terms with “trust they follow me” and delegating that trust to third parties that are fun or useful.
https://chaos.social/@janl/109677640974046213
No we fucking don't. We've been posting fine here for YEARS without having to come to terms with that. Figures now that this account is a recent join too.
Why do they always bring the "it's the inevitable future" arguments when **they're the ones making that ""inevitable"" future**
re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related
From https://chaos.social/@janl/109677152590563058 and https://chaos.social/@janl/109677164080124847 and the kinda evasive responses to mine and others concerns, it seems he's only intent in listening if it's something a [larger part] of "the community" rather not have, so it's worth chiming in on the original thread
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something something trans list stop scraping bios
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