re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related
From https://chaos.social/@janl/109677152590563058 and https://chaos.social/@janl/109677164080124847 and the kinda evasive responses to mine and others concerns, it seems he's only intent in listening if it's something a [larger part] of "the community" rather not have, so it's worth chiming in on the original thread
re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related
it's kinda weird seeing how even normally more critical people are responding to this. There's a thin veneer of "consent" and "private" but his service is still building a giant searchable index across everyone who uses it. like wtf. The software has merit when part of an instance but why would there ever be a centralized setup
update: Searchtodon meta, scraping related
Since then multiple others have mentioned these concerns to him, but they're dismissed just the same.
Yet again a recently joined twitter techbro is writing a scraper, but this time it's couched in language about "consent" and "privacy", it's still effectively building a centralized search index across users on his single server. Opt-out is also not actually consent, both legally (GDPR) and morally.
He keeps dismissing it as just a non-ideal stopgap-solution but that doesn't matter. it's about what's happening right now. random users logging in thinking there's *anything* private about this service, and feeding their entire following to the machine
re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related
@f0x This is unfortunately a pattern I've seen a lot in security circles as well, where supposedly security-critical people turn off their skepticism when someone with enough charisma/clout proposes a bad idea, and it's how we got Intel SGX, Cloudflare, and so on.
re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related
@f0x Oh, and let's not forget Signal of course.
re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related :boosts_ok_gay:
@f0x yeah really. "Consent" isn't really a hard concept ... and yet ...
re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related
also for fucks sake
> That said, I think the Mastodon community will have to have to come to terms with “trust they follow me” and delegating that trust to third parties that are fun or useful.
https://chaos.social/@janl/109677640974046213
No we fucking don't. We've been posting fine here for YEARS without having to come to terms with that. Figures now that this account is a recent join too.
Why do they always bring the "it's the inevitable future" arguments when **they're the ones making that ""inevitable"" future**