also fucked up little detail I found while testing with TalkBack (android screenreader) is the Mastodon toot's info line goes "May 4th, middle dot, (the privacy icon, nothing is said), middle dot, 0 (link), middle dot, 0 (link), middle dot, 0 (link), middle dot, Open in web (link)
(at least on 3.5.3)
re: masto question
@thufie it's just a mute for everyone on the domain. fucking absurd they're even called blocks
@rune shitposter supply & demand, maybe next year buddy
wii shop bossa nova cover has been playing in my ear for 30mins now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37cE20pFwwQ
@elilla oh your dad is Canadian? I know some ghosts from there!
@Dee huh, weird. they also added some odd threading indicator on mastodon.social
@weirdwriter Something else that should help here is the user info, bio, and toots all being wrapped in separate sections, so they are easier to navigate around as entire groups, if I understand correctly
@weirdwriter right! So when I posted those screenshot, the ordering would have been the header, avatar, display name and username, then the section with (pinned) toots, followed by the profile fields and bio. Which also matches how it's laid out visually, from top to bottom, and left to right.
I tried out moving the bio column to the left though, and visually people seem to prefer that as well, and that ordering also makes more sense for screen readers I think, like you mentioned.
My comment about discrepancies between DOM and visual ordering is also not an issue then, as they're moved to the left/start for both.
In the general sense, DOM elements are ordered from top to bottom, and if there's space, can go left to right before wrapping further down. But there are ways to radically change the visual order, through CSS and other attributes, which can cause confusion for people who use screen readers combined with visual perception, as now jumping to the next element does not match the expectation.
@weirdwriter I was thinking about that, yes! It would make sense, but from what I remember, having different DOM/visual ordering is discouraged for accessibility. Or are you suggesting to have it visually on the left too?
@AgathaSorceress linking my mess too in case anyone is interested https://git.pixie.town/f0x/nixos/src/branch/main/nodes/cosmos/services/glitch-soc
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