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@Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net yeah that one was terrible as well :") fucking scrapebro's

Just published my article/devlog about FediFox Shield, my project for a nicer public Mastodon frontend

It goes deep into some technical details I had lots of fun implementing, but also explains the overall motivation, and next steps for the project

cthu.lu/projects/fedifox-shiel

re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related :boosts_ok_gay:​ 

it's kinda weird seeing how even normally more critical people are responding to this. There's a thin veneer of "consent" and "private" but his service is still building a giant searchable index across everyone who uses it. like wtf. The software has merit when part of an instance but why would there ever be a centralized setup

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oh fucking hell, i was midway typing a reply to someone before I realized this was definitely not good-faith and then I went to their posts/replies and the only interactions they have with this entire instance is shitty techbro sealioning

ah because I still had a lot of local changes I didn't push..

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let's get to the bottom of this

*points toward camera*

@freci Currently it's completely mixed, but that's also because work is now getting paid to do a hobby project :)

Before that I used a separate 'work' Simple Tab Group addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firef

@bstacey @janl@chaos.social it's also something that has gotten worse over time, where many newer decisions are very clearly prioritizing marketing over privacy

(non)consent, techbros 

is the techbro understanding of consent really just "you didn't say no, even though you weren't aware what I was going to do"

fuck

@janl@chaos.social @aurynn the best practice to follow is opt-**in**. Mastodon does this wrong with the search-indexing setting as well. Create a hashtag for it. . . whatever. Consent is about opting-in. Legally as well, look at the GDPR.

Especially as this is just an 'experiment' having people opting in with your specific hashtag also gives you information if people actually want this.

re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related :boosts_ok_gay:​ 

also for fucks sake

> That said, I think the Mastodon community will have to have to come to terms with “trust they follow me” and delegating that trust to third parties that are fun or useful.

chaos.social/@janl/10967764097

No we fucking don't. We've been posting fine here for YEARS without having to come to terms with that. Figures now that this account is a recent join too.
Why do they always bring the "it's the inevitable future" arguments when **they're the ones making that ""inevitable"" future**

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re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related :boosts_ok_gay:​ 

From chaos.social/@janl/10967715259 and chaos.social/@janl/10967716408 and the kinda evasive responses to mine and others concerns, it seems he's only intent in listening if it's something a [larger part] of "the community" rather not have, so it's worth chiming in on the original thread

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re: Searchtodon meta, scraping related :boosts_ok_gay:​ 

note: the Mastodon "Opt-out of search engine indexing" setting is not a suitable proxy for consent here, it's hidden away in the settings unknown to most users, and it's also wrongly opt-out instead of opt-in.

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