Sven Slootweg (🔜 WHY2025) @joepie91@pixie.town

@rune @joepie91 of course before GoingToSleep there's probably a GoToShower as well

@rune @joepie91 after GoingTooSocial i'd presume there's eventually a GoToSleep?

@joepie91 maybe that is GoingTooSocial

Footnotes are an essential part of my writing and I don’t understand how so many note-taking and knowledge management applications don’t support such a basic feature.

⚡️lest someone read this in, I’m not saying you specifically *must* persuade them. Nor am I saying that we should tolerate bigotry or treat bigots like special boys who get treats.

No. I’m saying you need to destroy their fundamental views about the world.

If you’ve ever had a moment of revelation where everything you believed in collapsed, you know that’s a *far* more devestating blow than swearing someone out.

⚡️when encountering a bigot, if you are going to try to persuade them, I think it behooves you to ask the question of *why* they are bigots. Don’t assume it’s a lack of information. For casual bigots who obviously just don’t understand I think that works well, but for the committed bigots who yell at us in replies neither education nor beratement cuts it.

Taking out anger on them can be cathartic and it helps those they are attacking feel safer, but it can also reinforce the cycle of self loathing and escalate the conflict. It’s situational of course. Berating someone can be persuasive! If not to them, then to other people.

But legitimately… ask yourself what your core objective is. If it’s persuading *them* then you need to get into their head and break the back of the bigotry itself.

> tell bug bounty program that matching strings is not a secure way to fix an issue, with example that shows that payload A is mitigated but payload B isnt
> they add payload B to their list of strings to match and pay a bounty for that
> ???????
> tell bug bounty program that matching strings is not a secure way to fix an issue, with example that shows that payload B is mitigated but payload C isnt

free money glitch

@joepie91 A lot depends on the details like how likely this misunderstanding/miscommunication is for that world and its characters, and as I've discussed, misunderstanding plots are frequently handled so poorly they turn people off the whole idea. I think that ties back to a misunderstanding, as it were, about misunderstanding on the part of the creators, as something that happens because people are thoughtless or careless and not because of compelling circumstances with a lot of structural issues, as in my examples of Shakespeare and Austen.

It seems fashionable in the Anglophone literary world to deprecate plots that depend on misunderstanding and I'm not sure why--aren't they a staple of white Anglo classics like the works of #Shakespeare and #JaneAusten? 🤔 I guess there are a ton of cases where the misunderstanding is kind of meh and written in for plot convenience more than anything intrinsic to the characters and the world, but like any other plot element it can be handled well or poorly.

Personally I love a compelling misunderstanding where misinterpretation and crossed signals arise out of circumstances central to the story like "civil blood mak[ing] civil hands unclean," (Romeo and Juliet) or because honest communication about subjects like romantic yearnings is so high-stakes it's basically impossible, especially for women (much of Jane Austen).

And maybe there's a tendency to kind of sneer at this because these stories took place in the Olden Days(TM) of whalebone corsets and slavery and people are supposed to be above all that now. The last time I checked misunderstanding didn't die out with the advent of industrialization, though, unlike passenger pigeons and dodos (too soon?). Despite the enlightenment and freedoms constantly touted to us, how much goes unspoken and undared, dropped, forgotten and (un)missed in the odd spaces that open up between our fragile forms? Which, and whose, silences and misapprehensions do the loadbearing work in our lives?

I think these questions of misunderstanding and miscommunication are worth exploring in any age, especially if books are optimized for exploring inner lives as seems to be another common consensus in Anglophone lit crowds. (Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Beowulf among others might disagree, but hey, they're old news and drawn from oral tradition so they get filed differently maybe? 🤷‍♀️)

Superpower that I wish I had

The ability to tell whether someone is themselves falling for a scam, or if they're also a grifter who knows it's a scam and is hoping to benefit from it

Because I feel like the strategy you'd use on that individual is different between those cases