EFF, kiwifarms, death, harassment
So the EFF posted an article calling out Hurricane Electric (an ISP) for cutting off Kiwifarms, arguing that cutting off sites should never be possible: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/isps-should-not-police-online-speech-no-matter-how-awful-it
... and it's the most privileged, liberal shit I've seen in a while. Let's go into why.
As a refresher: KF is a community of harassers; people whose main goal is harassing particularly marginalized people, frequently to the point of actual death. They have a number of murders on their name, and they are only legally not murders because they were driven to suicide through harassment.
It's hard to get across how relentless this community can be. There have been attempts to get them cut off from internet service providers for quite a while, because "just ignoring them" clearly doesn't work, and they will go out of their way to harass people wherever they go, using their site as an organizing platform.
So: actual, real people are being deliberately and constantly harmed by them, to the point of trauma and death. The only defense against this that has had some effect so far, has been to get their service cut off.
It's under these circumstances that the EFF made a couple of arguments:
1. This blocking might cause collateral damage for other things hosted under the same organizations.
2. This creates a slippery slope; they might also start blocking other things, like marginalized people.
3. Prosecuting KF members is the job of the cops and the courts, not of an ISP.
The first one is an easy one; if organizations don't want to be caught in the crossfire, they shouldn't knowingly associate with a community of bigoted murderers. 11 nazis at the table, etc., you know how this goes.
The second one is deceptive, however; it *sounds* like a credible issue, and it's consistent with what the EFF has campaigned for before.
Slippery slopes can be a real thing where legislation and court mandates are concerned. If an ISP is compelled to start blocking one thing, and all the legal legwork is done to make that happen, then it is indeed very likely that this will experience scope creep, and blocks of other things start being demanded.
However, this isn't about government policy. This is about a first-party decision by a corporation to block using existing means. In other words, something they could've already done for anything anyway - this decision doesn't make anything possible, it doesn't remove any barriers, it's still just as possible to block stuff as it was before.
There is no slippery slope.
The third point, however, is where the privilege really shines through. It's the job of the cops, right? Sounds very principled and reasonable. But what if the cops just... don't?
KF has been around for a long time now. Authorities know about its existence. And yet, it's still untouched - clearly the cops and courts cannot be relied upon here.
A recurring problem with liberals is that they assume that the systems are there to serve them, and by extension, to serve everybody - even when there's clear evidence that they don't, like is the case here. Those legal systems aren't serving the many marginalized targets getting harassed and murdered by Kiwifarms.
Saying "the cops should handle this, not corporations" under circumstances where they clearly don't, is functionally equivalent to saying "this should not be handled at all". It doesn't matter what you *think* cops should do, what matters is the practical effect, and whether it prevents or perpetuates harm.
The reality is that *something* needs to be done - immediately, not in some hypothetical future - to protect marginalized folks from Kiwifarms. They are getting harmed *now*, it's not hypothetical. If the cops don't do that, then the job is unfortunately left to everybody else, whether you like it or not.
And the EFF's stance that "the cops should do something about this" would be a lot more credible if the EFF actually put in some effort to make that happen, rather than just using it as a cheap defense against people not Following The Procedures.
CW boost: kiwifarms, eff
They were able to to do this because the first transaction had happened on a site that didn’t use 3D secure. I’m surprised this is still possible.
In the end, my bank refunded the first transaction. So I haven’t lost anything.
But it shows the clever tricks fraudsters will try to pull and how easy it is to be fooled by the “boiler room” trick. “IT’S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW - DO SOMETHING QUICK!”
End 🧵
So, very cleverly, the fraudster has used their first fraudulent transaction to socially verify that they knew something only a bank could know - about transactions on my card.
They used that transaction - that they themselves had done - to get me to read a 3D secure code to approve the next transaction that they also wanted to do.
My friend from Poland is looking for a way to survive.
He just graduated from high school and lives in his parents’ house in the countryside, but he has no work experience or job, and he might be kicked out of the house soon.
He is aware of his autism but not diagnosed, so he cannot get disability aid. What should he do?
- If anyone knows about the social security system in Poland, please give me some advice.
- I want to give him at least hope that he can live without becoming homeless.
- Please also let me know if you have any other suggestions.
By the way, he can build websites (HTML, CSS) and draw illustrations.
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hey reposting fash shit just to dunk on it is still reposting fash shit you fucking knuckleheads. I know it gives some, like, emotional release to do so, but it's ultimately pointless, if not actually harmful to folks seeing it; it inhibits rather than inspires action. Please think twice before doing it.
Deep dive in de APV van Vlaardingen. Er is helemaal geen artikel 2.4.7 dat skatenboarden/skaten verbiedt 🙃
And I'll say again that the real genius of mastodon/fedverse/activitypub is that it costs money. The implications of that are huge and I don't think get talked about enough. Like, it might not be a lot, and not personally cost you money, but it is costing your server admin money. And that changes things pretty fundamentally.
Like, unfettered growth is no longer desirable, because it's not making you money. Once you remove adtech from the conversation things change, and in fact are inverted in some ways. There is no longer the question of yeah these people are assholes but they are making me a bunch of money. They are now costing you money, and you are in the position of having to decide if you want to support asshole behavior with your own actual money
The narrative about autistic people as cold, uncaring, emotionless half-humans incapable of feeling empathy is just another hateful myth.
Says science.
I wonder when mainstream society gets the memo.
"We investigated social discounting in autism and found that autistic adults were more generous than neurotypical participants, which was driven by greater generosity to socially distant others. Crucially, we also investigated framing effects during prosocial decision-making. Autistic participants were less susceptible to whether decisions were framed as causing monetary gains, compared to preventing monetary losses, for the potential recipient. Our results support the view of ‘enhanced rationality’ in autism as participants’ prosocial decisions were less influenced by potential biasing information, such as the closeness of the recipient or how choices were framed. Therefore, the differences seen in autism, as well as posing certain challenges, can also have prosocial consequences."
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/13623613231190674
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