Sven Slootweg (soft-deprecated) @joepie91@pixie.town

A piece of advice regarding #NixOS: You know how it's really difficult to find something similar to replace it with?

That also means that if worst comes to worst, a fork is very likely to happen - because there are going to be many other people *also* looking to replace it.

I would recommend not panicking yet, and instead keeping an eye out for further developments. Even if NixOS dies, that doesn't mean the community does.

@0x17 I would suggest waiting and seeing. Nix being so difficult to replace is likely to work in its favour here - with a fork being very likely.

And I mean "that they know nothing about" very literally - making statements and inferences that are obviously factually incorrect in the first sentence to anyone who has actually been involved in the events.

Or well, random dudes. It's always dudes.

I am growing increasingly impatient with random people who have never been involved in governance discussions before, suddenly feeling like it's their duty to start relitigating circumstances that they know nothing about. #NixOS

It certainly feels like a lot of things around the #NixOS situation that were set in motion some time ago, are starting to resolve themselves

@stib That is often the intention of the question; but the problem is that if you answer it as stated, you will end up arguing over "who really made" it rather than over "what people could feasibly do", and that is an impossible discussion because the historical documentation is usually either missing or inaccurate

"But how would we have <some technology> if not for capitalism?" is a misquestion, and you should not attempt to answer it. It is not relevant and will detract from the point.

We already have that technology. Abolishing capitalism does not require reinventing it. It can simply be used as-is, if it is needed. That problem is solved, and there is no moral imperative that says we should stop using it if we abolish capitalism.

What actually matters is whether a non-capitalist society could provide for people's needs going forward, and continue to improve itself over time, and *that* is the question to be answering. You don't measure that by considering work that has already been done.

@Sarosa@fedia.social @mynameistillian Ah, I see that you've found a new community to harass. I'm guessing that the NixOS folks started spotting your alts too quickly?

@picnoir This is an especially interesting development given that a certain member of DetSys has in the past expressed concern about Tweag trying to co-opt the Nix project