A piece of advice regarding #NixOS: You know how it's really difficult to find something similar to replace it with?
That also means that if worst comes to worst, a fork is very likely to happen - because there are going to be many other people *also* looking to replace it.
I would recommend not panicking yet, and instead keeping an eye out for further developments. Even if NixOS dies, that doesn't mean the community does.
@freakazoid There are a number of significant differences in philosophy, is my understanding, and merging two existing communities is something that usually does not go well
@freakazoid (The broader community definitely is not the problem here, the issue in NixOS governance is highly concentrated in a few people)
@joepie91 @freakazoid
interesting.
what are the differences then?
my naive understanding was it's mainly guile scheme vs. nix lang but that it would conceptually be the same. is it not?
@serapath @freakazoid The core concept is the same, but there are different ways to deal with rebuilds (grafting vs. not), different packaging policies, and so on - just a different community with different conventions and views basically.
Not inherently worse or anything, just different :)
@joepie91 @serapath @freakazoid Not to mention Guix using shepherd instead of systemd, and _so many_ Nix features and packages are built around systemd. I think the two communities could learn a lot from each other though in a positive way
what i read about sheperd sounds k8nda better than systemd, without me being actually able to weight the nuances though.
biggest issue i have with nix is nix lang.
guix using scheme seems much more compelling to me.
Maybe someone will copy the idea and do it aol over, but based on JavaScript. I would definitely try that 😁
@serapath @aires @joepie91 @freakazoid I definitely do not want to replace my init system with alpha software and find bugs in it. That does not sound like fun.
I think I care personally to little about the language.
@joepie91 @freakazoid
interesting. havent checked the details.
@freakazoid @joepie91 From what I have seen so far, no, it could not even replace my laptop on a high level.
@joepie91 half the forks want to rip flakes out which is simply a non-starter. i've honestly just started looking at osbuild pipelines instead.
@joepie91 Is Guix not an adequate replacement?
And isn't the community a big part of the problem? Keeping it together will require leadership, which is the hardest part.