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grumbling, uspol, "go offline" 

Lot of people responding to the shitshow in the US with "you should start moving offline and communicating with friends IRL" and conveniently ignoring that a huge chunk of marginalized folks do not *have* an offline social life and are actually dependent on a safe way to participate on the internet, and not for lack of trying otherwise

uspol 

liberals are stumbling over themselves to perform allyship this week, so it's a great time to make your asks and give them a path to do something useful

the whole "we stand with you" thing tends not to last for long, so get something out of it while you can

working class people can't think about politics because they're busy working 

It really annoys me when some people claim that workers don't have time to think about the news or politics because they're busy working.

What do you think they/we talk about on the job and during their breaks? Who do you think makes up literally all of unions? If anything people talked *way* too much about politics at some of my old places of work (I'm pretty sure a bloke who I taught how to use Microsoft Excel in the distant past was actually a closet nazi, and we were constantly clashing over his homophobia).

I didn't have lunch time arguments about whether or not people were the gender they say they are or if it's okay to be racist because of a terrorist attack (literally two things people were discussing over break room tabloids) at my old manual labour job just so y'all can let people off the hook for being dickheads because they're tired. We're all fucking tired. And it doesn't make you look sympathetic to the plight of workers, it makes you sound condescending.

At one point during Uni I was a full time student with two jobs *and* also a part-time carer and I still had the time and mental capacity to argue with the other students about whether or not Brexit was a good idea. This isn't a flex about my work ethic - I should not have had to do this, and I burned the fuck out within a year of graduation!

Our fellow workers aren't "thick" and they're not "lazy" and they're not just worked so hard that they're simply unable to tell that the famous posho scum you see every day on the fucking television are a bunch of bellends. We are drowning in a sea of misinformation because the ultra wealthy literally own like 80% of the ways people access consensus reality outside of their immediate surroundings. It's sometimes obvious, but mostly it's just a pervasive miasma of lies, infiltrating our senses and tainting how we all see the world and each other. Half this shit isn't even fucking real!

And *some* people, though far from most, actually *like* the taste of that misinformation, because it's set up to give them a license to be petty and selfish and cruel, and to blame all their problems on someone they've never met instead of having to face up to the actual nightmare scenarios before us. To give them a face to have a turn at stamping on. Someone lower down in the chain, to take it all out on as the bully at your back grinds you further and further into nothing.

The working classes are not some dull monolith. We can, and must do better, and those of us who are further out of that vicious sphere of influence need to actually work to destroy the machines imprisoning us all instead of lamenting how fucking disappointing everybody is.

@serapath @joelving @powersource I'm trying to get you to actually reason through the steps of what that 'crackdown' might look like and what would happen if you refuse to cooperate, rather than just saying "network effect" as some sort of magical incantation with inherent power (which it doesn't have; it needs an enforcement mechanism).

@serapath @joelving @powersource As I have explained several times now, you can keep using the old currency and only use the new currency with those who also accept it, and exchange between the two as needed - money has an interoperability that social networks do not.

You claim that that would be "cracked down upon" and I am still asking you *how* that would happen, because social convention alone does not make that possible.

Social networks have control over user account suspension and their APIs, and can limit interoperability, and that's how they can crack down on gradual transitions. Governments do not have that control over money.

So, how do they do it?

more ranting at white supremacy ... 

i'm all kinds of rageful today.

white people who are all "you don't have be so violent and angry" ... how dare you tell me to not be fucking rabidly angry about how you and your ancestors have kept your boots on my neck for decades, centuries. foh. i will be as angry as i want to. don't like it? FIX YOUR SHIT! GET OUT OF MY FACE!

@PastaThief Would something like Drip (bloodyhealth.gitlab.io/) not be a safer recommendation because it is entirely local to your phone, and so never goes to any server anywhere to begin with?

(Given that things in Germany aren't going that great either)

@serapath @joelving @powersource No, it is not. The network effect only applies for cases where a gradual transition is not viable. This is not one of those, if it works as you describe. So that isn't the answer either.

@serapath @joelving @powersource Again, "buying power" is a social convention that hinges on people accepting 'their' money as legitimate, so that's not the answer.

So *how* are they cracking down? What form of power do they have that cannot be trivially opposed?

uspol, i need to be angry for a little 

so the democrats had this absolute fiasco and their takeaway was "we gotta move to the right"???

"WE GOTTA MOVE TO THE RIGHT"???

TO THE RIGHT???

YOU SCUMBAGS

YOU HAD ONE BILLION DOLLARS

ONE BILLION

@serapath @powersource And to be clear, I have absolutely no intention of following the usual "look at how great Bitcoin is" playbook. I've tried to argue these things with people for literal years, and I am done. It is a waste of your time and mine.

@serapath @powersource I am not going to watch Bitcoin propaganda. I am very well aware of the tendency for enthusiasts to selectively spread around 'success stories' while being suspiciously quiet about the failure stories. I am extremely close to the cryptocurrency world and I know what the true dynamics are.

@serapath @joelving @powersource That is not the correct answer. If that were the answer, nothing would stop people from transitioning, because none of it exists in any way other than through social convention.

So what's the actual way in which capitalists can crack down on alternative currencies?

@serapath @powersource Yes, adoption has shrunk over time. But to be honest I don't think this conversation is going anywhere, you seem far too invested in believing that Bitcoin is doing well.

(And I say this as an early adopter who *to this day* continues to be paid in BTC by a customer, and continuously experiences the frustrations of dealing with it)

As you can probably imagine, this work attracts a whole lot of well-intentioned straight white retired women with money+time on their hands, which…it is what it is, culturally and politically. None of this SHOULD be volunteer work, but the professional social worker I work with has literally dozens of cases. The needs are immediate.

So I will say that if you could use a way to make a child or teenager’s life a little safer and more stable in an increasingly scary time, this is a way to do that.

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In the US, most states have programs that assign volunteer advocates to children and youth in the foster care system (CASA and GAL are the acronyms). Anyone with a clean record w/r/t kids can do the training. It’s the weirdest band-aid on a broken system but until we fix the system, it’s also essential work that helps keep kids from falling through some terrible gaps.

nationalcasagal.org/

@serapath @joelving @powersource There's a reason I brought up exchanging - if what you say is correct, then it should simply be a matter of exchanging to whichever currency you need for a given transaction. Annoying, sure, but doable. It could even be automated.

So. Why isn't that happening? That's the question I'm asking.

And "it gets cracked down on by capitalists" is getting closer to the answer, but it is not the full answer. *HOW* does it get cracked down on? What is ultimately the thing that gives capitalists the power to crack down on this?

(A more proactive/reliable service with specific assurances could also be an option, but that one would not be free)

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State of the sok. Als mensen vragen (dat doen ze gek genoeg nooit) of ik patronen kan inbreien is het eerlijke antwoord: ik kan één patroon breien 😆

#breien #sokkenbreien #knitting

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