Sven Slootweg (soft-deprecated) @joepie91@pixie.town

@kims This is very difficult to establish exactly for the same reason that nobody knows who has or hasn't donated to both, but:

I track mutual aid posts pretty closely, and particularly those which get updates about how close they are reaching to the goal, as well as looking at the donation log on services that support that (like Ko-Fi). Mainly because I want to keep an eye on how folks are doing.

And while these posts *do* get donations (sometimes...), the totals are so low, even averaged across many posts over several months, that there is absolutely no way that even $25k a month is going into them, and I would estimate it's quite a bit less than that.

If the amount of money going to mutual aid requests were even close to what KH has received in a few days, then all these mutual aid posts wouldn't remain pending with single dollars trickling in for weeks.

Someone did a tally earlier, and the numbers from that roughly match my internal estimate of the size of the asks, too: https://cyberpunk.lol/@SnoozyRests/112852785334849906

What I'm saying is, these are not just assumptions, they're based on what people actually see happening around them, and in the case of poor folks expressing their frustration, what is happening *to* them.

I just don't see a way to explain the huge discrepancy in numbers other than "the donations are grossly unbalanced".

@nerkles Arango seems to have gone proprietary unfortunately :(

@freakazoid Definitely looking for something OLTP, in the vast majority of cases

@me It's possible that there's some requirement in the budgeting / IT system to allocate the visits to a specific diagnosis, even if one is not available?

Every time any weird data shows up in my file at the hospital, something like that has been the reason, and they simply couldn't enter nothing.

@freakazoid I'd be fine with a graph database, as long as it has sufficient performance on relational tasks (comparable to something like PostgreSQL), and offers a similar set of guarantees - thinking of things like referential integrity and 'proper' transactions.

Do either of those meet those goals? The performance doesn't need to be exactly like PostgreSQL (as that has been seeing optimization for a long time) but also not so slow that it's only really useful in an academic setting :p

@virtulis Ah yeah, that sounds like my own database project though that is in JS :)

I did run across one other database that does this, recently, but unfortunately it was proprietary.

@tachi I wasn't aware of the existence of FerretDB!

I'm skeptical of anything from the MongoDB lineage, because rather than being a set of concrete bugs, the problem was more the underlying design philosophy (that simply would create more bugs even if old ones are fixed).

I'm seeing that FerretDB is based on PostgreSQL though, which is potentially a reason to reevaluate that skepticism - as that should ensure that at least the core data storage is sound.

Any idea if they've fixed the query injection issues that always haunted MongoDB's syntax?

@virtulis I find SQL to be one of the worst designed languages I have ever worked with, and it makes everything I do several times more complicated than it needs to be, basically.

Kind of surprised to hear that RethinkDB is still around and open-source, to be honest, I thought that'd met an untimely end years ago!

@kims FWIW, the anger is not really directed at folks like you who donate to both - but the orders of magnitude difference in how much money is going to each, show that there *has to be* a significant amount of folks who are donating to the campaign but not to mutual aid. Just nobody knows who they are precisely.

@tthbaltazar@chaos.social From my limited travels in Germany: doesn't that make it *more* of an ICE? 🙃

@nxskok @kissane They were definitely more featureful and accessible than newsgroups; they originated as an attempt by a relatively early Dutch ISP to give people reasons to use the internet, and so quite a bit of work was put into making it broadly accessible (by the standards of back then, anyway).

"Unmonetized Reddit" is probably closer, though the variety of features (also chat etc.) made it feel a lot more 'complete' and less niche than Reddit does, and there were some very big differences in social dynamics that come not just from being unmonetized, but also from just having a fundamentally different model.

Reddit, for example, only *partially* isolates communities; they are still considered "a part of Reddit", with attempts at cross-linking and cross-promotion between subreddits, trying to lock people into their platform, fundamentally broken power dynamics regarding moderation, that sort of stuff. Those things would need to go, too.