Sven Slootweg (soft-deprecated) @joepie91@pixie.town

@evelyn@misskey.bubbletea.dev @pleb@hunk.city Do you actually need a local queue, though, or do you just need a multiplexer?

We should have some form of public goods transport, where you 'check in' some kind of cargo (camping gear, large hardware store purchase, whatever) at the point of origin, specify where you're going and when you'll arrive, and then someone shows up after that time with your stuff, for a price that's in line with human public transport.

@melsbells@tenforward.social Unfortunately not; it seems I haven't kept any bookmarks on this topic :( It's unfortunately also a difficult topic to find details on (in English anyway), considering how little attention there is for policy and communities in Africa in general...

@melsbells@tenforward.social While that is true, decentralized authority structures are still authority structures (that people look up to and expect solutions from), just often less functional ones, therefore less effective.

AFAIK a lot of communities in Africa have fared *much* better with the pandemic despite having way less access to means, because local communities (often in the absence of authority structures) took the responsibility upon themselves to protect the entire community. There was no authority to look towards and expect to fix it.

@melsbells@tenforward.social Had we as a society been (culturally) prepared to organize things like this ourselves, instead of relying pretty much entirely on some unreliable central authority, then I don't think things would have failed like this.

@melsbells@tenforward.social Definitely not talking about the tragedy of the commons, no! Tragedy of the commons implies a public commons failing due to nobody taking responsibility; but the problem here is that the responsibility was explicitly *assigned* to somebody (the various governments), and most of said governments failed to do their job there, leading to exhaustion and hopelessness among those whose trust was breached by them.

@melsbells@tenforward.social Honestly, my view of that hasn't really changed during the pandemic, though I can see why that's different for other people. In NL, I *did* notice people caring a lot about each other... up until the point they ran out of energy after constant pandemic mismanagement, and started feeling like nobody cared about *them* (which could be argued to be true if your worldview involves "the government" as the ultimate carer).

I'm seeing a lot of parallels to public commons appropriation. The general population's goodwill was exhausted by a small group of people who were refusing to take their responsibility, and instead chose to spread confusion and misinformation, leading to the population's goodwill falling apart over time.

@alexispurslane I wonder how they'd respond to the research showing that people vote *completely* differently when asked to vote for parties vs. policy points, demonstrating that voting in practice happens by identity and not by policy views.