Forest @forestjohnson@pixie.town

@researchfairy thanks for the vote ofconfidence cuz every time I talk about making something that fits this description, all of the hardcore tech people make fun of me for building an "offline first" website

@karlexceed I think NLNet has a good model.

Also, UBI / social safety net helps a lot, i.e, if you don't want to work for a wage you are still allowed to exist.

Unity game engine was started by a bunch of broke college kids in a bed room doing OpenAL fixes on a grant from the danish government.

@mos_8502 @Unlikelylass I think it's more realistic to go bigger than that, like community size

We're already doing this @ cyberia, at least to some extent.

Also, I think it's important to kind of contextualize what this really means in the greater economic environment and society that we're in. Basically, it means that you're taking the technology that's thrown out in the dumpster from behind the large for-profit enterprises and trying to make use of it and make your own community out of it or something.

So naturally, you know, it's not going to be the best. It might not smell great, for example. But is anyone who's ever dumpster dived before knows... There's some great stuff in there.

Great tech experiences that are...
fun and not stressful, or work on the first try, or meet everyone's needs... They're not easy to create. It's easy to say, We should just be able to solve all these problems, like email for example. But the reality is that email on its own is more than one human being's lifetime worth of work to try to create a solution for.

@schratze @g1comics Often times these sites don't work in Chrome either and you have to, you know, go into the developer tools to make them function correctly.

@schratze @g1comics yeah in the us, most places where you have to pay utility bills or interact with government are only ever tested on chrome