Forest @forestjohnson@pixie.town

@creitve I realize maybe this is not the most helpful response considering you were asking for a guide.

Web server software typically enforces modern TLS and prevents you from using something that is 15-years-old-compatible because it has security issues that could be showstoppers for, IDK, money $$$ transactions or privacy concerns or something.

But for a personal site, no one cares, TLS is mostly window dressing, especially if you are trying to support 15 year old devices anyways.

So what web server software you use will be a very important decision. You are looking for a web server software that will allow you specify the allowed TLS versions, including versions that have been long since deprecated for security flaws.

This goes for both cloud software offerings and self-hosted webservers. Look into the documentation for the web server software and see if it allows you to specify the allowed TLS versions.

Besides that, you will probably target HTML 4, not HTML 5. There are plenty of resources for this, but like I said before, the most important thing would be to have such an "ancient" device, OS, and browser to test with. Cheers! 💚 💚

@creitve do you have a 15 year old device set up to test with ?

You will need:

Old TLS
Old HTML

And that's it I think? Mostly you just need a 2009 device and 2009 OS to test with.

@notplants @decentral1se @j12i

Ideally you could delay calling `event.preventDefault();` until after you know that the quick-nav was successful. But due to the async nature of the cache and fetch mechanic, i don't think thats possible.

@notplants @decentral1se @j12i

Might wanna do the same thing on line 81 as an `else` statement for `if (newMainContent) {`, to handle all cases.

Really don't wanna get into a situation where user clicks a link and nothing happens.

@notplants @decentral1se @j12i

Very cool tbh 👀

line 84 (error handler) should probably do something to emulate clicking on the link and having it navigate normally. Because otherwise a missing cache entry on-click will result in a silent failure for the user.

@aynish @boris

@notplants Ah sorry I didn't understand what you were asking at first.

AFAIK that lspci output doesn't positively identify the GPU you have, but from this PDF it sounds like it should be intel HD graphics 4000?

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/withdrawnbook/ThinkPad_X230.pdf

And StackOverflow says the max res for that GPU would be 2560×1600 through DisplayPort

https://superuser.com/questions/1317793/does-a-thinkpad-x230-i7-support-a-4k-external-monitor

In general, as a very old laptop, it probably wouldn't be very usable with a high density screen even if the GPU did support it.

@notplants The lcd segmented displays on the old Nintendo Game & Watch have crisp edges 🤷

To actually respond to your question though, the metric you are looking for is "pixel density", similar to "DPI" (dots per inch) from the world of printing.

Celly Phones have really high pixel density screens. You could probably just peek at your friends' phones and see how they look to you, and then look up the model of phone online and see what its pixel density is, then compare that to laptop screens.

Apple is the main hardware vendor for super high pixel density screens on laptops. There are also some other laptops that feature 4k screens, but in general those are the kind of products that I would personally try to avoid as much as possible -- expensive blinged-out and consumer-oriented products that sacrifice functionality for impressive sounding specs.

Cuz here's the thing. The number of pixels goes up as the square of the pixel dimensions of the screen. So the finer the edges of the text get, the exponentially more power the machine will consume, the more complex the software to display things on the screen will have to be, etc.

I think apple actually renders a lot of non-text things at 1/2 scale to give the machines decent performance. When I play video games, even on my 1680x1050 display, I turn down the rendering resolution to make the game smoother. When I'm working with video, especially capturing video, again, I turn down the resolution a lot so that people who I am presenting the video to can actually see WTF I'm doing.

Personally I don't think all the problems that come with using a high resolution display are worth it. If you really just want a 4k display on a laptop tho, I'm sure there are some products out there you could buy, even used ones these days.

@dumpsterqueer Sometimes iphones used to upload heic images to websites (even tho I know they are generally not supposed to). IDK if they still do this but if so, I found/wrote some code that can read them and make sure they are rotated correctly https://git.sequentialread.com/forest/heic-converter-gui/src/branch/main/heic2jpg.go#L18

It uses the same wazero thing yall have been using