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@AllNyaNoBite@notbird.site @goat@hellsite.site that's how I read it at first lol, but yeah that's fucked up

@divVerent@social.tchncs.de yeah I avoid em too, but I like to think my pages still look good :P

uni 

pretty sure i've only followed the kick-off lectures this whole quarter, none after that..
but have been quite active in all the group writing assignments, those are okay

@divVerent@social.tchncs.de from my experience it's only the huge frameworks that struggle to do updates correctly, exactly because they're so bulky. If you choose your modules right a npm update will just work

@divVerent@social.tchncs.de huh, React works perfectly taking components from all sorts of dependencies, nesting however you like. It's by far the most pleasant UI library I've worked with.
jQuery on the other hand...

@goat@hellsite.site i showed you my meeting please accept

@divVerent@social.tchncs.de yeah, that's what 'npm update' does as well

@divVerent@social.tchncs.de I don't think that has anything to do with how humans think, it's a habit taken from older ecosystems like Java where that's the standard, huge do-it-all frameworks. Whereas in JS a dependency is zero-cost so if you write it in a separate file you can just as well publish it as a module

@goat@hellsite.site alright then, I will schedule a video call meeting for tomorrow, 7:30am okay for you?

@goat@hellsite.site I messaged you to ask for help with solving this issue do you have some time

@divVerent@social.tchncs.de yeah lol, anything but JS (and Rust?) has dependency hell all the time.
Python is finally moving to a dependency config "inspired by" npm and cargo though, with lockfiles and everything, just will take 10 years for people to migrate to it I guess

@divVerent@social.tchncs.de maybe the original JS was never intended for that, but Ecmascript has grown a lot since then. It's currently the language with the best module system so yeah, large codebases shouldn't exist, ideally you're just combining separate modules (either written by you as well or someone else). A combination of does-one-thing-and-does-it-well module is easier to audit, easier to refactor and easier to understand

@divVerent@social.tchncs.de lol so it's literally a band-aid on the messed up large code base, ok

CloudFlare 

@thufie selesti.com/news/checking-for- might be useful, even though they do this from a pro-cloudflare standpoint lmao

CloudFlare 

@thufie no i mean, it would be useful to check both?

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