me, long-time nvm h8er: "ugh I have to switch node versions so often now maybe I'll give nvm the ol' college try one more time"

nvm:

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@zkat you have ended up on my timeline. i will now show you nix:

ckie@cookiemonster ~ -> nix-shell -p nodejs-16_x

[nix-shell:~]$ node -v
v16.15.0

[nix-shell:~]$
exit
ckie@cookiemonster ~ -> nix-shell -p nodejs-12_x
these 3 paths will be fetched (20.11 MiB download, 95.55 MiB unpacked):
/nix/store/4xsdry5dxx7dz2m6byg7gsdapq6j2h6k-icu4c-68.2
/nix/store/aakd4293fm9pl61kgr01l4prp5j8p6vf-nodejs-12.22.12
/nix/store/l2j4qrk6bnw2gvsmpnn1d438h6fcir2y-icu4c-68.2-dev
copying path '/nix/store/4xsdry5dxx7dz2m6byg7gsdapq6j2h6k-icu4c-68.2' from 'cache.nixos.org'...
copying path '/nix/store/l2j4qrk6bnw2gvsmpnn1d438h6fcir2y-icu4c-68.2-dev' from 'cache.nixos.org'...
copying path '/nix/store/aakd4293fm9pl61kgr01l4prp5j8p6vf-nodejs-12.22.12' from 'cache.nixos.org'...

[nix-shell:~]$ node -v
v12.22.12

[nix-shell:~]$

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@ckie yeah uh. I’m not going to set up nix on windows sorry. Or probably any os.

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@zkat lol the nix evangelists have logged on

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@darius I mean all the more power to them. They’re just unhelpful replies.

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@zkat @darius
am tired and have been debugging a stupid thing for hours but tldr i'm not an evangelist, @joepie91 explains this well in social.pixie.town/@joepie91/10

@ckie I suppose we disagree on what evangelism is. "my fundamentally different operating system paradigm solves your problem elegantly and I will tell you about it even though you didn't ask for a solution" is very much tech evangelist behavior, to me.

@darius i instinctively respond to problems-that-look-like-questions with answers if i know them. that's a side effect of being in various #​help-with-<thing> chats a looot

@ckie I get that instinct. For what it's worth I used to do this a lot myself, before I learned the extent to which it was often not welcome.

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@darius i think it usually comes from like a "automatic respect" type thing, which i don't think was the case here but i don't give a fuck about automatic respect so if whoever i'm talking to gets upset because i'm undermining their independence or whatever i am yoting myself the fuck out of there

though when it's just "this thing is stupid, here, see the stupid" it's okay in that regard, though these kind of posts are also kind of bad since they just show "i don't care enough about this to dig in and find a proper solution/major blocker so i'm just gonna complain"

and both of these vary based on where you are, hence why i am going to go back to my little part of fedi (maybe)

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