So, who else is going to #WHY2025 and wants to meet up?
Hi. I'm looking for folks and SWers familiar with the really dark shit that happens in the industry (not necessarily even personally, just knowing about the sorts of things that happen). I don't need a blow-by-blow but since I am working on something that could potentially be picked up by horrible people and used as a tool of exploitation, I would like to have conversations ASAP about how to do things NOW such that this is mitigated/entirely prevented.
You can DM me here, or preferably on signal at zkat.1312.
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To be fair, part of the procrastination was because I couldn't settle on whether to make a gts-specific subdomain or just 'fedi' or 'social', because migrating subdomains between software isn't trivial, but by this point I've pretty much settled on "I'll probably be happy with GtS anyway", partly because of following its development and partly because of my needs changing
I vaguely recall hearing about when Visa went after Fetlife. My memory is fuzzy and there's some gaps in the story clearly though. I absolutely recall they nuked a bunch of groups to immediately comply with their payment processor's demands, then when forging a more permanent policy on such things, I think they decided "You know what? Screw them, come what may"
But now that I look at them now, they ban those topics so I guess they tripled back on that?
I was saying elsewhere I knew of exactly one site that told payment processors to go heck themselves when told to ban certain content from their site. Turns out that didn't last, or I misremembered.
Anyone have more detail on that entire story?
@joepie91 maybe that is GoingTooSocial
@joepie91 missed opportunity "GoToSetup the gts instance"
⚡️lest someone read this in, I’m not saying you specifically *must* persuade them. Nor am I saying that we should tolerate bigotry or treat bigots like special boys who get treats.
No. I’m saying you need to destroy their fundamental views about the world.
If you’ve ever had a moment of revelation where everything you believed in collapsed, you know that’s a *far* more devestating blow than swearing someone out.
⚡️when encountering a bigot, if you are going to try to persuade them, I think it behooves you to ask the question of *why* they are bigots. Don’t assume it’s a lack of information. For casual bigots who obviously just don’t understand I think that works well, but for the committed bigots who yell at us in replies neither education nor beratement cuts it.
Taking out anger on them can be cathartic and it helps those they are attacking feel safer, but it can also reinforce the cycle of self loathing and escalate the conflict. It’s situational of course. Berating someone can be persuasive! If not to them, then to other people.
But legitimately… ask yourself what your core objective is. If it’s persuading *them* then you need to get into their head and break the back of the bigotry itself.
re: "AI"
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