re: thoughts on forms of communication, moderation, and a little bit of meta
Also, in case this wasn't obvious: this is absolutely not an argument that "you should allow people to be friends with nazis", or anything like that. There are definitely valid reasons to shut out people over who they hang out with.
Rather, this is about that annoying gray space inbetween, where people hang out in communities that you don't want to interact with for entirely reasonable reasons, but that others might view differently for their own entirely reasonable reasons, because everybody has their own priorities and concerns.
thoughts on forms of communication, moderation, and a little bit of meta
I feel like a lot of conflict around moderation and defederation comes from a pretty insidious (and mostly unmentioned) problem introduced by social media over the past decade or so: the mixing of personal and communal communication.
It used to be that you had online community spaces, and you had personal messaging applications, and these were mostly distinct. Sometimes they used the same protocol under the hood, but they were generally otherwise split.
But over the years, a lot of social media have tried to be the one-stop shop for every form of communication; from the communal to the personal, it all happens in the same place, the same app, often with the same people and even mixed into the same UI (eg. notification feeds).
But these two forms of communication have very different social dynamics! Getting ejected from a community is one thing, but someone deciding that you cannot talk to a personal friend because you *happen* to be in the same community is something entirely different.
These forms of communication warrant different forms of moderation; deciding who someone else can interact with personally rarely goes well, and likewise leaving communal spaces unmoderated (or going user-by-user) is also a disaster. They have competing moderation needs.
You can notice this even here on fedi: when (well-intentioned) people complain about defederation, it's rarely a complaint about being cut off from some part of the network; almost always, it's about not being able to talk to specific friends anymore, because they had been relying on fedi as their personal communication channel too.
Maybe we should... avoid replicating this mistake in the design of our alternative social spaces? Maybe we should reintroduce this distinction between communal and personal communication, and not try to centralize all and any communication onto a single network? And make a more explicit distinction between the two?
After talking to both technical and non-technical users, I realize that so much of what and how technical users use git (and other VCSes) essentially as backup systems. They don't need atomic commits with comments most of the time, but they're already used to that workflow.
On the other hand, non-technical users are used to computers being a bit like playing "The floor is lava"- if the make the wrong move, all their work might be engulfed in flames, so "cloud" systems are a savior.
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OpenAI meltdown
The OpenAI meltdown sure is something.
Friday, its CEO gets unceremoniously defenestrated by the board. A board won’t be bothered to get off their ass unless there’s significant money or liabilities involved.
Today, the news breaks that 3 senior scientists at OpenAI have resigned. I’m guessing that some fun moral/ethical issues are also going to come to light.
I wonder what Sunday will bring 😄.
"So why didn't LLMs happen sooner?"
Because for it to happen, two things needed to be true:
1. Someone needs to be sufficiently unscrupulous to exploit labour to this degree
2. They also need to have a big enough bag of money to actually make it happen
... and it takes a while for both of those conditions to occur together, and the result was "OpenAI"
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