discussion re: google, firefox, browser development, and comments of mild impending doom
@someonetellmetosleep That's the thing, though - why would you put in all of the effort to create a new, better browser... when Firefox is right there, and it's Good Enough and the degradation is slow?
This is the core problem with controlled opposition; it is Good Enough by some metric that gets slightly worse every year, but never too fast to freak people out and create an opportunity for a critical mass of "people who want to start their own thing" to exist.
So yes, no other browser options exist. But why is that? Because the existing options are Good Enough. And yes, the standardization process is thoroughly captured. But why is that? Because no other browsers exist and the power is heavily centralized in Google and, yes, Mozilla. And Mozilla has every reason to go along with Google, and so functionally all the power lies with Google.
Mozilla is never going to throw Google out of the standards process, they're never going to go against them, because Google will just steamroll over them and this will only hurt Mozilla. So a third party is needed to do that - but there are none left, because you cannot gain any traction on *creating* one, because again, Firefox is Good Enough.
What I'm trying to say here is that all the issues you are describing likely exist *because* of Mozilla being controlled opposition. They cannot provide any counterweight, and they cannot fix the issue, they can only discourage others from even trying to.
And yes, I *do* expect that to improve when Mozilla goes under, simply because there is a vacuum, and the problem becomes obviously visible, and that makes it a lot easier to mobilize people.
Will that happen quickly? No, probably not, which is the usual problem with accelerationist views, which is why I'm trying to put out early warning here, to hopefully mitigate or eliminate the timespan during which there are zero alternatives.
cynical, covid, olympics
@marlies Also: the Olympics? The Olympics where athletes are collapsing because of failing public health policy around COVID? That Olympics?
google, firefox, browser development, and comments of mild impending doom
@someonetellmetosleep I don't know that that is actually true, to be honest.
Sure, they are not *actively and willfully* destroying the internet, but whether by intention or otherwise, they have certainly been acting as controlled opposition - never genuinely threatening the dominance of Google (who *are* destroying the open internet), but being high-profile and *just* useful enough that it discourages and inhibits more radical efforts, because "we have Mozilla already!".
I would argue that they have certainly been *contributing to* the destruction of the open internet, by being such a poor steward of the task of "safeguarding openness" while constantly claiming to be taking the responsibility upon them in their public-facing marketing.
Or to put it differently: Firefox going under is going to have serious consequences for a lot of people, and this sucks and mitigations are needed for this. But I am not sad about *the organization itself* going under, because I am much more interested in what could exist once Mozilla is no longer sucking all the oxygen out of the room.
google, firefox, browser development, and comments of mild impending doom
@someonetellmetosleep On the one hand, I understand where that feeling comes from.
On the other hand, I think it's high time to stop idealizing Mozilla as some great and irreplaceable organization, because they absolutely have not been living up to that expectation for at least a decade by now, and it's an open question how many alternatives have never come into existence because of the public perception of Mozilla 'having it under control' (which they most assuredly do not).
"Noah Lyles' collapse underscores our collective COVID denial"
"The 2024 Olympic Games are serving up some less-than-subtle metaphors for how poorly we handle public health. "
https://www.salon.com/2024/08/10/noah-lyles-collapse-underscores-our-collective-denial/
Is there a term for “digital anachronisms” like this: in 2010 I used an iOS app named Elements to edit text notes on my iOS devices. It stored the notes in a folder called “Elements” on my Dropbox, and now 14 years later my notes folder is still named “Elements” even though I have not used that software in at least 10 years.
google, firefox, browser development, and comments of mild impending doom
@joepie91 while I think the codebase/engine will take a long time to go from idea to a working product, I think the sooner that project starts building a community is the key factor in surviving. Right now the level of uncertainty with Firefox has people looking for alternatives so starting to build that community now will probably be easier than after people have been forced to settle for a Chromium based browser.
It is actually wild that the Steam Deck has probably been the first "full fat desktop Linux" device for over a million people. I've heard many stories of people using the KDE environment on it, being happy with it, and eventually moving their main desktop away from Windows. Thank god the Deck cuts a good first impression.
uspol, sorta, broadly anti-state ranting
I think part of why this gets to me is that there's a mindset that, and I'm not trying to be mean, feels like it comes down to being so incapable of imagining people Breaking Rules that it reduces the spectrum of possible governance down to "bad people who smile while enforcing unjust rules" and "good people who frown while enforcing unjust rules"
uspol, sorta, broadly anti-state ranting
Okay I'd written an entire thing about how golly tim walz is nice, wholesome, loves kids and cats, feeds the hungry, is a gis nerd, and supports the trans youth
and has shown that he's willing to use the force of the state to crush dissent
because, y'know, the point is that no matter how nice a professional politician is, no matter how much they "sympathize with the protestors", they protect the state's legitimacy and the interests of capital first
and I included this whole bit about "well what was he supposed to do??" that I felt was basically beating on a helpless scarecrow so I trashed the post
then I flipping saw a thing making the rounds literally pulling a "well what was he supposed to do?? the mayor of minneapolis called for aid???" and
great
love that
love treating people entrusted with governance and power like they're helpless cogs in the machine of state, good people just following orders
(This is a criticism of both aforementioned authoritarians, and of people saying you "should learn from history" but providing no guidance or starting point whatsoever on how to separate truth from ideological conviction)
I wish more people would understand how quickly support disappears when you don’t “get better.” Even those who say they’re going to stick around eventually grow tired of the fact that you’re “always sick.” They grow bored of you. One by one they disappear.
It ends up being a lonely life - and the pandemic has only intensified those feelings. If you’re lucky enough to have people stick by you - you have to constantly risk assess whether they might infect you with a virus that will disable you even further. It’s exhausting.
All these pitfalls and landmines take an incredible amount of energy - and its energy most of us simply don’t have to spare. It’s hard to fault someone for not admitting they have Long Covid when the admission could upend their world.
If you don’t tell others you’re disabled - you can at least TRY and pretend that everyone in your life will stand by you. That they aren’t ableists who view people like us as “less than”. If you tell them the truth you’re risking a tremendous amount of pain.
That brings us back to the Olympians. People who are revered the world over for their physical prowess. For their strength, fitness and ability to perform. Their entire careers are based on health status - on being the best of the best. On being able to “power through.”
Their Covid infections are also very public - with the entire world hearing about each positive test, setback and missed opportunity. They’re already setting up the “inspirational narrative” of the Olympians sick with COVID who “overcame to win a medal.”
Because that’s what society wants. They want the story of people pushing through against the odds. They don’t want the story of the person who ends up bedridden because they were too stubborn to wear a mask. That story doesn’t make people feel good.
For these reasons I’m skeptical that any Olympians will admit it if they end up disabled by Long Covid. They will simply quietly disappear. The same way many of us who aren’t in the spotlight have been quietly disappeared from our own lives.
People have forgotten we exist. They stop calling. They stop visiting. They unfriend & unfollow. They don’t have to face the fact that we’re still here - but we’re very sick. They don’t WANT to face it. We end up slipping away with very few people left to witness our decline.
The disappearing of disabled people is exactly WHY others remain convinced they don’t know anyone with Long Covid. Why they’re so sure no Olympians will develop it. We need more visibility. To emerge from the shadows and have people confront the realities of chronic illness.
I sincerely hope that when an elite athlete is left disabled from covid -
They’re able to get a firm diagnosis and tell the world. I hope they will stand up and admit that their career is over due to a virus that everyone has decided is “mild” and not worth worrying about.
Perhaps if someone influential was willing to put themselves out there & risk the judgement and ridicule so many of us already face - we could begin to see positive changes. We could begin to see recognition of the severity of Long Covid. Of the need to reduce spread.
The need to protect our children & vulnerable populations from forced infections. The need to clean the air. The need to stop normalizing constant sickness.
When we finally DO recognize all these needs - real change can happen and healing can begin. 2/2
Getting tired of white folks shutting down BIPOC critiques of Harris/Walz by referencing detention camps as a Trump scare tactic when we've got massive numbers of disproportionately Black folks enslaved in labor camps in every state in the nation RIGHT NOW. We don't call them that, but that's what they are.
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