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@joepie91 Look like they are hacking what's left of XulRunner out of Firefox.
https://github.com/zotero/zotero/blob/main/app/build.sh is `interesting`

me: Hmm, Zotero is apparently written in JS, but it doesn't seem to be Electron. I wonder what runtime it uses 🤔

"Zotero is built on Firefox"

I'm sorry, it what

venting, XMPP 

Reading the XMPP RFC and being very quickly reminded why I don't like implementing this thing (the fucking streaming XML parsing required)

@red_sky I mean, I'm sure there are still some things with a custom protocol for some circumstances, but in practice everything (Matrix but also proprietary chat things) is addressable over HTTP now without weird reverse engineering nonsense like used to be necessary for stuff like the MDN protocol

Oh hey, the rotting NFT-ized corpse of Winamp finally figured out how to delete their company-internal shit off Github?

advice, if wanted 

@mynameistillian If there's one thing I've learned through many years of activism, it's pointless to "change someone's mind" on something... *unless* you are willing to make a significant commitment towards doing so.

If you only want relatively low-friction interactions (and this is a valid thing to want, if you're marginalized!), then it's best to focus on interacting with people who are on the fence but already predisposed to your views, and who really just need someone to talk it through with.

You *can* change the mind of people with even wildly different views, but it's a long-term commitment that requires specific strategies, a deep understanding of how their worldview works, and a lot of patience - often using unintuitive tactics. It's definitely not for everybody, and probably not the best use of your energy if you are already low on spoons.

And finally, don't underestimate the amount of change that can be caused by convincing people who are on the fence.

The section that describes "IQ stanzas" in the RFC immediately explains it in terms of "request/response" so it's not like those terms weren't already in use

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... why are query stanzas in XMPP called "IQ" again?

(I know what it stands for, that is not the question)

Suggesting Gemini or Gopher to someone looking for a Chrome alternative, or suggesting Markdown and Git to someone looking for a Wordpress alternative, is like suggesting a bicycle to someone looking for a car alternative.

Yes, it's technically possible that it will solve their problem - but more likely than not, it is completely the wrong thing to recommend because it isn't even the same *kind* of thing.

Please, when recommending 'alternatives' to people, don't just assume that because you personally like something, it's a good recommendation - actually make the effort to understand what someone is asking for, which may not even be something you've ever needed!

(And I say this as someone without a car, with a bicycle, and who uses Git and Markdown for their blog, so don't bother with the "you just don't understand how much better it is" please.)

So I've learned that RedBox has gone bankrupt and is shutting down. Apparently property owners are getting quotes as high as $1000 from companies who will contract to haul the machines away. I know several hackers interested in them, however, and would be willing to take one or two for free. If you are in central Florida and have a RedBox machine you no longer want on your property, you can reach out to me and I'll put you in touch with someone who will take care of it for you and re-home it.

@Peetz0r @lnl Oh, sure. But "protocol" in messenger implementation parliance tends to have a more specific meaning :)

@rail_ I imagine that's maybe not viable from a funding perspective? Going off how badly public OSM tileservers tend to fare (mainly because of shitty companies leeching off them and using a crapton of bandwidth inefficiently)

@lnl Yep, that's pretty much how I looped around to "huh. I guess custom protocols are dead" - the fact that everything seems to have a web-based version now

@jon Definitely. Though that's usually not due to journalistic philosophy :)

I think the distinction matters mainly because the handful of journalists who *do* actually have journalistic integrity specifically, tend to be used to (unreasonably) shield the entire profession...

@jon I would say that there are definitely specific journalists that have particular integrity which is driven by a journalistic philosophy, but this is indeed absolutely not true for "journalists" as a broader category of people, in my experience...

we have any USA-based tax/lawyer types here on the fedi? i need some basic guidance.

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