Sven Slootweg (soft-deprecated) @joepie91@pixie.town

@StroomAfwaarts It's the time of the week when the most people are likely to be around, awake, alert, and able to deal with bodged updates. No weekend hangovers, no lazy last days of the workweek, etc.

@sofia@chaos.social That question is exactly what society *should* be configured to work out, but currently isn't.

It's not the sort of question you can easily solve on your own, which is exactly why people have so much trouble balancing even their personal needs, let alone communal needs. It requires social support structures.

But that doesn't mean it can't be answered. It just means that the tools we have today (and I'm looking at the policing system in particular, and how it is applied to conflicts) are not suitable for the task.

@sofia@chaos.social But that's my point - why is it about *comparing* needs? That is still presupposing that different needs are incompatible and that's where conflict comes from, but in practice that is rarely the case, and I'm not convinced that happens often enough to pose a societal problem.

@sofia@chaos.social I mostly feel like this doesn't address the core problem with a legalistic approach to conflict resolution: it still frames the conflict as opposing parties where the task is to figure out who is "the most right", as opposed to framing it in terms of needs and which solution might address the maximal amount of needs

@polyfloyd While true, the type of DIY practiced by the crowd in question is often of a more off-the-shelf nature; it relies on the availability of ATX computer components (motherboards, CPUs, etc.), for example, which is entirely dependent on the continued interest of manufacturers to produce those things.

That's not necessarily a *bad* thing, but it means that it's extremely vulnerable to capitalism; if manufacturers decide that it's more profitable to only manufacture integrated systems (which is where things are headed), that's just the end of it.

This is distinct from more punk-like DIY, where the point is to find novel (not manufacturer-approved) ways to use things that might otherwise be considered useless.