@joepie91
the pear runtime

https://docs.pears.com a.k.a **dat** as in @dat_ecosystem 🙂

It is super exciting and works amazingly well

@serapath Holepunch is a sketchy company and absolutely not anti-capitalist (and did some very shitty things to Dat)

@joepie91 holepunch is not dat.
holepunch is a dat-ecosystem project and there are many who build on top of dat.

dat has implementations in C/JS and Rust.
The former is mostly maintained by holepunch at the moment because they have funding, but it is all ooen source.

Dat is a public good 501c3 organisation with a consortium.

Open Source can be used by anyone, i dont really underatand whay that has to do with how dat works

@serapath I'm not really interested in arguing this. I was following Dat (and then Hypercore) long before Holepunch got involved, and it absolutely got co-opted. What the structure is on paper doesn't really matter.

@joepie91 it isnt co-opted.

dat-ecosystem started in 2013. is a 501c3 public good company. has more than 20 active projects of which one of them is holepunch, but it has an independent second implementation in rust that has nothing to do with holepunch and on top of all of it it is open source.

not proprietary.
not closed source.
no token or blockchain.

isnt that a bit unfair?
its not just on paper.

what is the issue?
which project do you like more?
iroh? which is literally a for profit?

@serapath Like I said, I'm not interested in arguing this. I already know what all the arguments are, because I've had this exact discussion with these exact arguments before with Dat proponents and it did not pass my sniff test.

I would rather build on something where I do not have to guess or hope or assume about what will happen with the governance in the long run. It's just not worth it to put my energy into this.