Are there any exciting developments in explicitly anti-capitalist P2P systems lately?
(I know about Veilid)

@serapath Holepunch is a sketchy company and absolutely not anti-capitalist (and did some very shitty things to Dat)

@joepie91 holepunch is not dat.
holepunch is a dat-ecosystem project and there are many who build on top of dat.

dat has implementations in C/JS and Rust.
The former is mostly maintained by holepunch at the moment because they have funding, but it is all ooen source.

Dat is a public good 501c3 organisation with a consortium.

Open Source can be used by anyone, i dont really underatand whay that has to do with how dat works

@serapath I'm not really interested in arguing this. I was following Dat (and then Hypercore) long before Holepunch got involved, and it absolutely got co-opted. What the structure is on paper doesn't really matter.

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@joepie91

Why do you focus on holepunch?

There is dat-ecosystem, an ecosystem with 20+ projects. Holepunch is just one of them.

There is a rust implemwntation of dat whoch has absolutely nothing to do with holepunch.

Of holepunch was ever to stop developing the stack, others relying on it would pick it up. it is open source after all.

The tech has no lock in, no blockchain, not tied to any tokens....

in an imperfect world, some normal companies fund open source, but it isnt the only one

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