Forest @forestjohnson@pixie.town

@juergen_hubert your living room

@h Or just as a good way to sidestep packaging related issues and make things easier in general

@h Maybe this particular YouTuber just decided to make their thumbnail as troll as possible to attract attention 👻

I don't know. If the audience is full of people who only know how to use Docker, it makes sense to me to do a video for those people what would you do if you had a Docker container but you needed to deploy it to a Linux server that does not or cannot have Docker.

(I haven't watched the video so I have no idea what it is)

Honestly, I think Docker is pretty good as a way to... as like a gateway drug to get more people running Linux servers.

@rcktslc it will be a direct alternative when someone makes a fork with a search that works

(By works I means doesn't require the exact thing you are searching for to have been manually added first by the person searching)

@h Is that a bad thing? It used to be you had to know all this stuff just to access the internet. Now you need to know less and less to publish to the internet (in the own-the-printing-press sense)

@cadey really cool! I made my own one of these too, originally it was used as antispam for forms (origanally i had called it a captcha) but I started using it to protect against indexer bots too, in a different context.

https://git.sequentialread.com/forest/pow-bot-deterrent

Here's a demo: https://picopublish.sequentialread.com/files/PHkVvC41/moss.jpg

Also, about the JS requirement. I haven't "upstreamed" this into the pow-bot-deterrent package yet but when I ran into spam issues with the capsul.org login page, I had to do something for js-free users (or just people who have webworkers disabled n stuff).

Eventually I settled on just asking them to send an email to a specific address. Then there's a separate process which stays connected to the mailbox over IMAP and waits for messages. Then when it gets one it returns a blocking http call, so the user can log in right away.

The code is a mess cuz I made it in a hurry but:

https://git.cyberia.club/cyberia/capsul-flask/src/branch/main/capsulflask/auth.py#L172

https://git.cyberia.club/cyberia/smtpd-delivery-monitor/src/branch/main/main.go#L361

Just saw this and wanted to share my experience w/ this kinda thing, its v. cool, I really don't like google captcha / cloudflare

@sigmasternchen because they were designed to work like C packages, which were designed in an era when a 5mb hard drive was $1000 😢

@aaron lol, nice, one time I tried to do this on our git server by returning 4mb of text at ~10 bytes per second... It was all fun and games until it started mistaking human users for bots 😔

Sounds like you've solved that by letting the bots out themselves and trap themselves by navigating too deeply into a nonsense area that's separate from the actual site...?

@hisaac what's your take on this?

https://j3s.sh/thought/write-posix-shell.html

Basically "shell is great, but if you love shell, stick to the POSIX spec and a lot of problems that make shell scripting not great will go away"

But also "only use shell for things that its good at. For everything else, there's python3 and its stdlib (or whatever else floats your boat)"

@Canageek @nolan nvm, it looks like its more searchable these days https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#motorola

@Canageek @nolan
Yes and no. LineageOS has a great list of all the supported devices, but they're all listed with their code names. So there's a little bit of cross-referencing that you have to do. But they do have a great list.

@Canageek @nolan Same but Motorola phone that now costs $70.