@thufie this reminds me about how back in Seattle I lived near a steep hilltop (as Seattle is wont to have) and trying to use online services to plan a trip on metro transit always tried to get me to cross a hill to or from the "nearest" stop... a hill that meant taking a very long flight of stairs both up and down, taking easily double the time it estimated

And I also happened to do all my grocery shopping on foot and by bus! :'D