Matrix governance shit, rant
Seriously, when will the Matrix people accept that their governance procedure is exclusionary and doesn't work?
Today I learned that you're apparently *expected* to repeatedly ping them for status updates over a timespan of months to get any MSC moving, including for an MSC whose purpose is literally to fix the governance and capacity issues for everything else
Fuck this shit, honestly. Fix your governance process if you actually want people to contribute. I can barely remember what I ate yesterday, why are you expecting me to do your job of proposal tracking
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As I was told: "it's not tracked as something which needs comment in the next 3 months."
Okay then. Guess you don't actually want your capacity issues to get resolved.
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Also growing increasingly tired of the "the Matrix spec is a collaborative process, and we would like more people to get involved in development" refrain
Well maybe you shouldn't have these kind of fucking barriers that you can only pass if you are abled or it's your full-time job, then
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To summarize this whole thing: if you're in a crisis, I lend you a helping hand to get you out, and your response boils down to "you didn't file the correct form"... then I don't think you actually want to solve the crisis.
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@joepie91 Oh yes, that's sadly a fairly common answer from what I've seen. Also if you for any reason miss a window where the proposal gets actively considered, it will get yeeted to the end of queue. (I've seen that happen with custom emotes)
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@joepie91@social.pixie.town I'm shocked you managed to put up with their bullshit for so long
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@joepie91 you are extremely shortening the reality of what went down in the foundation room here...
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@MTRNord I have also left out the several years of private conversations with Travis and Matthew where I gave them practically paint-by-numbers solutions to get out of the hole they'd dug themselves into, which were then promptly ignored.
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@joepie91 Tbh you are currently looking like an egocentric person. Especially as you always in public complain about back-channelling but now that you want to push something through the process you complain that they dont backchannel for it...
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@MTRNord I am not expecting them to 'backchannel'. I am expecting them to *prioritize* it. To be proactive about the thing that is literally meant to save their broken and falling-apart processes.
I *deliberately* made it an MSC *because* I didn't want to backchannel this.
This is the actual problem here: https://social.pixie.town/@joepie91/111736936127357679
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@joepie91 so, their model, as designed by them, relies on borderline harassing the "thing-doers" (I'm not sure what their term is) into getting things moving? That sounds like the opposite of ideal. You'd create resentment between the group of people who want to contribute and the people in charge of accepting contributions.
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@ryan That is exactly what it is, apparently, and that is exactly what it resulted in.
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This marks the end of my attempts at fixing the governance process, I guess.
The MSC is here, in case you want to read it: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/pull/4073/