XMPP, Matrix 

So the latest XMPP proponent argument against Matrix was "Element works with cops, that's why you should use XMPP instead"

And here I see a Conversations developer and an ejabberd developer being excited about XMPP being adopted by German cops

It's almost as if the weirdly aggressive arguments coming from those XMPP proponents (it's always the same bunch of people) are made in bad faith

re: XMPP, Matrix 

That same bunch of people also often tends to be suspiciously close to channer culture, which should maybe be a clue, idk

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