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Animal Liberation question 

One thing I don't get about Animal Liberation is... what do you do if the "livestock" are not native to the wider bioregion, and you can't afford to herd them back to somewhere survivable?

Settlers in particular have a long history of taking these animals places they couldn't survive naturally, like deserts, swamps, and jungles. There are cattle farms that have to shower the cows on a timer so they don't die from the heat. What then?

I don't mean this as an "own" or anything. I just can't think of a good asymmetric tactic to apply which doesn't hurt the animals.

re: Animal Liberation question 

@thufie
i think in this scenario you can't really avoid killing some of the animals, but you do have the choice to do so much more humanely, and let them live much longer lives (longer than "old enough to be a saleable product") and much more comfortable ones. And avoid making more of them, too.

re: Animal Liberation question 

@Byte this has never really satisfied me. Can a cow be a martyr? I'd rather not consider their slightly different death for an abstract cause.

re: Animal Liberation question 

@thufie it’s less about that and more that we can avoid bringing new creatures into this world that were selectively bred to be a saleable product, and take care of the ones that do exist as well as we can until they do die.

It also means that they get to live a lot more life until they die, and when they die it’s not going to be scared out of their mind in a slaughterhouse. At worst, it’d be an unfortunate accident that the humans involved didn’t notice until it was too late to do anything. But mostly it’d be old age or euthanasia.

re: Animal Liberation question 

@thufie based on a quick google search, beef cattle for instance go from living 1-2 years in the meat industry, to living 15-20 outside of that.

they might still get eaten, but in this case that’d be secondary, not their designated purpose in life.

Realistically I imagine it would mean stealing an amount of animals from a commercial farm, sterilizing them, and then dispersing them to as many rural areas as you can manage to be taken care of by folks there. And probably doing something to obscure or otherwise hide any branding or tags to avoid being found out.

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