Goo Truther 
remember when all laptops had removable, swappable battery packs that you could eject and slap back into the back of your computer like a gun magazine reload action?
do you remember what they took from you???
@thufie the chad PSP with an easily swappable battery, replacements sold in stores vs the virgin Vita with a non-removable internal battery.
@thufie sometimes my Linux laptop has a weird time awaking from sleep if I disconnect the power. It basically looks like it's bricked.
It's weirdly intermittent but I normally resolve it by doing the battery reload and boring back up.
I guess on the one hand I should just fix the issue but I don't know what I'd do if this happened with a sealed in battery. Wait for it to die and see if that clears a weird state?
@thufie ThinkPads still do
@thufie Yeah I'm still running a T-430
@thufie That's their way of making you buy a new laptop every two years.
I still have a working Gateway laptop made in 2010, replaced the battery 4 times, and replaced the hard drive once.
@thufie Same with smartphones, it used to be that you could just buy a replacement Li-ion battery for $5
@thufie Just another method of planned obsolence
@willowashmaple @thufie Apparently, even when phones had swappable batteries, hardly anyone did. Nowadays, manufacturers probably see little point as, especially with higher end models, hardly anyone buys the phone outright - they've persuaded a lot of people to effectively rent the handset as part of the contract, so swap it every year or two, possibly even before the battery depletes to annoying levels.
@willowashmaple @thufie Added onto which, soldered in batteries allegedly allow thinner and more water resistant cases. Even so, it would be nice to allow some means of replacement for the handful who do hang onto their phone until other components become obsolete. My Moto G8+ battery lasts about half a day of intensive use, but will randomly hang for a few minutes several times a day - yet it has plenty of spare storage and RAM.
@thufie Phones used to have this utility too!
Amazing what a simple and lovely thing it was that we lost.
@thufie glad i got a t460 with the hot swappable battery
@darkwitchclaire @thufie The Thinkpad T440 I had before this and the A485 I use currently both have the same problem where they randomly shut off when on battery 🔋 only every few weeks.
I've replaced the internal and external battery on both, pretty sure it's the external battery dragging the system voltage down and causing a brownout.
Kinda burns me on dual battery 🔋 designs 😢
@thufie i wont ever forget that betrayal.
@thufie I just bought a Fairphone and having an accessible and exchangeable battery just feels right. (Although I really can't say anything bad about the lifespan of that in my P20 lite, which is still going strong.)
@thufie but yeah, in general, this was my thought: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=h2efyUKLO9w
@thufie Remember? I'm using a Thinkpad T410 right now, which is on its third battery or so. ... I probably need to get the heat-sink re-gooped and the dust blown out, but it's still chugging along like a champ.
@thufie hey that's my laptop in the picture!
@thufie because of user-replaceable parts, my 2007 black MacBook is still useable (albeit running Linux instead of MacOS). Once my 2013 retina MacBook Pro's battery dies, not sure if I'll ever use it again, even though it, too, has linux on it. It was fun to watch Twilight with my daughter and "hey, that's my black MacBook in the movie!!'
@thufie it was a pain to install Linux on it (2007 MacBook) though. Had to follow https://mattgadient.com/linux-dvd-images-and-how-to-for-32-bit-efi-macs-late-2006-models/ and https://mesom.de/efi32boot/index.html
@thufie i would love to have this again
along with other features that have been relegated to Fancy Gaming Laptops, such as a keyboard with usable arrow keys, or a numpad
-F
@thufie I remember making serious decisions about how big of an extended battery I wanted. One laptop I had, the battery was on the bottom, so the extended battery angled the whole thing up like a kickstand.
It was absolutely obnoxious and wonderful
@thufie
I remember when that was a thing for cell phone too. I had a galaxy S3 and would just swap out the batteries (I had bought a few spares on ebay) and get a full week of phone usage. I miss that so much.
Now just replacing batteries at the end of their life is a pain, and no one on their right mind would do it once a day.
@thufie really really really want a 1st-person video of someone reloading a laptop battery like an FPS gun now
@thufie I remember when phones could have a fresh battery installed by popping them open, having a sub-panel to protect the electronics and only service the battery. It didnt matter that my earliest attempts to run Cyanogenmod were battery-hungry, i had a few more batteries in my bag pre-charged and ready to go. Batteries are usually the first component to age out, especially in high temp contexts, so its also kinda anti-repair.
@thufie Ah the good old days before batteries glued into place. 🫶
@thufie No. Because I still have my old laptop and my old phone, and refuse to upgrade until I find something that has the things I want and need. I've had this phone since 2014, I want my changeable battery and I wont upgrade til I get it, fucker!
@thufie I see a ThinkPad 😻
@thufie My laptop still has this feature, although it is getting on a bit, so that could be why.
@thufie remember when laptops sometimes had TWO batteries and you could swap out the external one while the device was on? Those were the times...
@thufie on mobile phones too
@thufie yes i do. and just yesterday i tried to find out how i could change the battery in my mom‘s laptop. turns out it would involve nearly dismantling the whole thing…
@thufie my laptop still has it.
Actually, I purchased a new battery park last year bwcause the old one reached the end of its life span.
@thufie the Thinkpad T-series used to have an internal and a removable battery, so you could hot-swap. So good.
@thufie is that a Thinkpad 230X/220X
@thufie *laughs in thinkpad x200 daily driver*
Though my other laptop has best of both worlds, an external and an internal battery*
*the internal battery is disconected cause it likes to hang when asleep, and i need a way to hard reset it
@thufie I just decommissioned loads of Dell E5x and E6x laptops that were almost completely serviceable.
Removable batteries, drive bays, two RAM slots, 2.5" SATA, keyboard, display, etc. Durable and cheap.
These new Lenovo are junk in comparison
@thufie You should check out the Framework laptop. It is how it used to be. You can even assemble the laptop yourself, if you want. https://dwarf.ly/KWwl84
@thufie This is why everyone should be flocking https://frame.work laptops instead of the big companies.
@thufie This is why I'm not willing to let go of my thinkpad t410 nor my phone with a removable battery. I've dropped the latter so many times and all that happens is that the back part will come off on occasion while the screen remains intact. Peak design 
@thufie unfortunately I also remember how the underpowered netbook my mom got for free and then gave to me later has now become nearly useless even as a dev machine because it was a commercial failure and HP stopped selling replacement batteries, and its is now at a few % of its original capacity.
Modularity isn't enough, we also need standardization to keep parts available.
@thufie oh god or the ones that had two batteries, and you could swap one out without losing power