@jonatasbaldin@indieweb.social @wklew I think maybe they both are? There's also a service that begins with an h that some euro folks like?

Of note, the coop cloud folks are kind of a European fork of capsul. They improved a bunch of capsul stuff and then used that source code (permissivly ofc) to run their service. There was a very cool, intense couple of weeks is tight collaboration. You might see something clearer come outta them soon.