im so tired of computational progress at all costs
and software always being so slow

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please upgrade from your perfectly serviceable machine, we wish to run more javascript

my computer isnt even *that* old I just dont have the money to have the latest hardware nor do i want to have the latest and greatest

i dont care about AI or raytracing or more cores, i just want to play old silly games, write, read, and talk to my friends

does anyone actually optimize their software or are they just not allowed to anymore

the concept of not optimizing is so foreign to me because most of the programming ive ever done was within set resource restraints and limitations, so I had to be creative and looking for bytes to save

also im not dissing javascript itself, just the horrible things that its used for. I've done all sorts of small stuff on JS for resource limited platforms ( Hi KaiOS!!! :D )

@lyncia
I've worked at a number of modern JavaScript shops now. You'll get the occasional insufferable nerd who argues performance to win the for/forEach argument, but for practical purposes nobody understands performance enough to optimize even if they cared.
Besides, half of everything gets transpiled to es5 so even if you do write good code, if you used a feature less than 20 years old it'll get polyfilled into slop.

@lyncia haven't you heard we have so much ram nowadays we should not think about optimisation lol...

*cries*

@szpon @lyncia I’ve heard it so many times that I think if you don’t have any other knowledge sources and you’re stuck to that we-can-always-add-more-ram bs you can become insensitive to non-enterprise-tech-bro context.

@lyncia I love to use JavaScript for things that actually need responsive programming, but holy fuck if other JavaScript devs will do anything to avoid using the HTML element that does exactly what they need with no additional code necessary
And they make things responsive that have absolutely no reason to be responsive except ✨aesthetics✨ and I'm like come on, at least let us choose between the page you think looks cool and the page that just fucking works

@lyncia firefox froze when we were writing a long comment complaining about this stuff
so instead we'll just say:
a software update is when you install a new program and pretend like it's the same as the old program

@lyncia
we wish to one day install the final versions of programs we use

that's it, all the errors were fixed, all the features were added. no more updates. the program is finally completely implemented.

@transoptimal ive seen programs like that.

theyre ocasionally considered "unmaintained". "abandoned".

@transoptimal maybe my memory is mistaken on that though. personally, software doesnt need to be perpetually upgraded

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