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"quality software should be paid"

how about we reverse this. people should be allowed to make things and improve society without requiring compensation, and everyone should have their needs met. I don't like the capitalist framing of "well, people need to eat, so, people should be required to divulge some of their eating funds to ensure other people can eat"

like I get it, I really do. but paying for software creates incentives that I really dislike. it creates a hostile work dynamic with someone and their creation because now they're extra pressured to fix everything wrong with it, and people can choose to hold their livelihood hostage based upon what they do or don't add to it. how about we get rid of all of that and don't compromise for the sake of a half-assed capitalist solution

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@clarfonthey we should reverse this, but also can't reasonably expect people to fix things without compensation when they're struggling to put food on their plate or a roof over their head.

transitioning from capitalism to whatever non-capitalist model is preferable is always going to be plagued with nuanced decisions to make

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@navi While understandable, the part that annoys me about the "software should be paid" discourse (which I suspect @clarfonthey was also trying to get at) is that that's usually where the conversation stops.

No "software development should be sustainable and we should find a way to do that that doesn't also exclude people who can't afford software and causes undue pressure" or anything nuanced and constructive like that. Just "software should be paid", end of sentence. That's usually what the discourse looks like.

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@joepie91 @navi yeah, exactly

like I don't fault people for selling software in their specific endeavours to survive

what I don't like is the implication that this is truly a neutral endeavour, as if simply charging for software benefits all parties involved, or at least the one making it, when that's false. I even explicitly detail one way it it decidedly not beneficial for the person making it: you get added weight and expectations that are not there when the software is free, and sometimes don't even get the satisfaction of getting paid for what you've made because people feel it's not worth it for one reason or another, forcing you to work even harder

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