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> One begins to suspect that a great many students wanted this all along: to make it through college unaltered, unscathed. To be precisely the same person at graduation, and after, as they were on the first day they arrived on campus. As if the whole experience had never really happened at all.

@baldur Given how much most employers treat a college degree as a mere gatekeeping checkbox to tick I can't really blame them for wanting to invest as little effort as possible... I am seriously disappointed at the lack of creativity on display though; They seem to half-ass half-assing things...

@lpwaterhouse @baldur I was thinking exactly this. With all the discourse around 'cheating' (also prior to ChatGPT), remarkably few people ever seem to ask what's driving cheating in the first place, and whether that might hint at a deeper problem with how education is treated...

If you require people to go through 'education' that they have no reason or motivation to go through, it's really not surprising that they look for the shortest path to meeting that requirement. What might education look like if it were a voluntary, student-governed experience instead? Would there be any reason left for people to cheat?

Libraries.

It would look like libraries.

We should replace school with libraries.

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@cy @lpwaterhouse @baldur I think it's going to depend on how you define 'libraries' - philosophically, I agree that that's probably what it would look like.

But most libraries today do not have on-call expert instructors for a wide range of topics that can assist you with the thing you're trying to learn! And that would probably be needed to be a good alternative to schools.

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Yes, it is a bit more complicated than just "libraries." In particular, the wannabe Carnegies and Rothschilds absolutely salivate at a system where education is open and free for anyone to learn, but it's also perfectly legal to work someone so hard that they don't have one single moment of free time to take advantage of it. Compulsory schooling is effectively the fat cats saying "Oh, you want to restrict US huh? How about we restrict YOU instead!" Plus abusive parents salivate at a system where they can keep their children chained in the basement with only a bible to read, so keeping the same compulsory authority but just shifting it to parents isn't great either.

But if people don't have all their time and energy stolen by those plotting against their education, then they'll educate themselves just fine. And yes that does mean people refusing to study Trigonometry, until they have a reason to actually use it, but I think that's worth the resilience and resistance to tyranny people gain, once we're not training our children to bow before oppression.

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