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@serge @josh0 I'd recommend looking through his Twitter feed for a bit. It doesn't take long to run into "no politics", "no CoCs" and "free speech" rants, and all the other right-wing 'cancel culture' rhetoric.

It's also not a single incident; I've seen various complaints about Kling floating around for a long time now (but have not kept active track of them), which altogether paint a picture of someone who is not safe to be around, and not to be trusted with the safety of vulnerable people.

@joepie91

I went to x.com/awesomekling

I did it twice. First without logging in, then I held my nose and logged in.

Without logging in, I read as far as I could, about two years.

Logging in, I went back and read every post/reply since January 1st.

I saw one post asking Elon Musk for money. I am not a Musk fan, but if Musk was willing to hand me a load of cash to fund my development, I'd take his money and use it to do good in the world.

I admit I didn't study every word, but I didn't see anything like you're mentioning.

Can you show me some posts please?

I'm 100% behind believing you, but I'm not being shown anything that I can see echoes this sentiment.

@josh0

@joepie91

Okay! I see.

A lot of dog whistles for sure, especially the last 3.

One of them, x.com/awesomekling/status/1891 - is a bit complex, because I have lost so many people, and whole spaces in my life, when they started making statement that I and others like me should cease to exist.

I don't think I know a single Jew who hasn't had this experience in the last few years.

I've also found out that a lot of FLOSS developers want me dead, a LOT.

And so there is some appeal to the idea of declared neutral spaces, but I also understand that the person making the statement they want the neutrality matters.

@josh0

quote of ableist term 

@serge @josh0 Right, yeah, part of my interpretation of that tweet was in the context of the other tweets.

Part of it was also the specific phrasing - I've personally found there to be a pretty clear dividing line between people speaking about this in terms of ideologies/"extremism", vs. speaking about it in terms of harm/safety. The former pretty much always seems to be about "both sides" rhetoric.

(The "insane" vs. "normal" phrasing is additionally suspicious to me - that's a very specific choice of words that I pretty much only see used in this context by people who try to normalize fascism)

re: quote of ableist term 

@joepie91

For sure. This is subtle stuff, and it's complicated.

Context matters, a lot, including who's is saying it.

Thank you for raising this, and thank you for doing the research.

I know I can sometimes get really frustrated when "Someone doesn't want to see it." and I'm grateful that you didn't dismiss me and put the labor into finding the examples.

@josh0

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