Actually, why isn't there an accident investigation board for software failures?

@joepie91 it exist when software has societal consequences (in France)

@joepie91 there's many investigation groups in the French gov: IGF (financial matters), IGAS (social / health matters), IGJ (justice matters) and they're in charge to unveil corruption, mismanagement etc.

Sometimes, they have to deal with IT systems and trying to understand what responsibility played the software in question, who wrote it, why did they write it this way, etc etc.

An interesting recent example is the mismanagement of EHPAD (aged people centers) by Orpéa with a weird accounting

@raito I'm not sure that's quite what I'm thinking of.

The problem is that a lot of procedures and policy in society were de facto delegated to software (and the people building it), and in doing so they became significantly more distributed. Often, bureaucratic procedures are now the product of interactions between different software systems, instead of deliberately specified.

This also means that each individual system no longer meets what I'll call the 'significance requirement' to be of interest to traditional investigatory bodies; each individual fuckup is too small to register. It becomes a problem of a thousand cuts, none of which *by themselves* warrant investigation.

This is why I feel there should be an investigatory body that accounts for this phenomenon and that has the necessary procedures to deal with it from a practical perspective.

@joepie91 traditional investigatory bodies are aware of this move and are trying to hire to level up on those new challenges and missions

Obviously, it's not perfect as what you are describing in your first post, but there's a clear understanding that computers are ascribing how people get equal access to their rights

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@raito I'm not sure that can be solved with hiring? To my knowledge, these investigatory bodies are typically restricted by their mandate from the government they operate under, and that AFAIK usually includes a certain 'minimum societal impact' before they have any jurisdiction.

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