: It's recommendations time again! :boost_requested:

I'm looking for games that are high in simulation and strategic complexity, but that are not *obtuse*; ie. I should be able to learn and discover the complexity through gameplay, rather than through reading hundreds of pages of manuals.

Good examples are Factorio, Rimworld, Project Hospital, Workers and Resources, Software Inc., Airport CEO, and so on (but those games I obviously already know about).

I prefer games that also involve some kind of layout/design/building process, where the design choices meaningfully affect the outcome. Also especially interested in more obscure games, including indie ones and graphically unpolished games!

Also, no war-themed games please. And preferably no turn-based, as I tend to find those too slow for my liking.

@joepie91 @mynameistillian I heard good things about Timberborn store.steampowered.com/app/106

I have yet to play it but it seems to me like Factorio x Dwarf Fortress, with humanoid beavers.

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@maxthefox @mynameistillian (and cc @kloenk): I did enjoy it for a bit, but it didn't feel like it had particularly much depth or complexity to me; it's polished and all, but mechnically it felt like basically just another city/town builder to me, But With Beavers.

Perhaps I'm missing something, though? I did not end up playing it into the endgame.

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