Why is every single course a "bootcamp" now?

I don't like to get thrown into the mud and being yelled at.

I just want to learn some computer stuff whilst sipping my tea.

Maybe, I'm not made for this world or:

I just hate corporate speak.

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@mina Probably not quite the same problem you have with them, but from my perspective as a tutor, I hate 'bootcamps' with a passion.

They invariably promise impossible learning outcomes ("become an expert on _____ in two weeks!") and completely fail to teach foundational concepts, instead they tend to focus on rules-of-thumb and highly-specific patterns that aren't even appropriate in most cases, but it sure *looks* very advanced!

Every single time I've tutored someone who had tried a 'bootcamp' before, I spent the first few weeks to months 'un-teaching' all the nonsense they picked up during it... before we could start on the actual foundations of the skill.

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@joepie91

What you tell, sounds so realistic to me.

Yes. Foundations are what you build upon.

@joepie91 @mina It is a really old webpage, but it is still very accurate: Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years norvig.com/21-days.html

@molenaar

This is excellent, and I totally agree with the paradigm:

It takes time and deliberate practise to become proficient with any given skill.

@joepie91

@molenaar @mina Yep; I have frequently linked students to this article to set the right expectations :)

@joepie91 @mina also they both never teach the fundamentals/basics AND never get to anything actually interesting

Just boring building blocks that they haven't told you why which piece goes where, congrats you completed the tutorial, good luck actually doing anything else

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