non-ADHD advice given to ADHD people is always like "here's one neat trick for doing the thing: just do the thing"

@gsuberland "too much mental load? Simply reduce your mental load by writing a to do list"

It's like they don't know that writing a to do list exponentially increases mental load for someone with ADHD

@schratze @gsuberland wait they do? I thought there was something wrong with me cause everyone keeps telling me to make lists specifically as a way to deal with my ADHD 💀

Even other people with ADHD have told me this

@hazelnot @schratze @gsuberland In the neurotypical way, yes, they absolutely do, they (among other things) create a loop of self-punishment for "not having done enough" which negatively affects executive function further, and can create an overwhelming sense of a never-ending list of stuff to do such that you can't even start on a single thing, to just name a couple of the ways in which (monolithic) todo lists (as often suggested) can make things worse for ADHD

@hazelnot @schratze @gsuberland There are ways to use todo lists to your advantage but those work very differently from the widely-recommended "todo list" concept

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@hazelnot @schratze @gsuberland I mentioned this in more detail in social.pixie.town/@joepie91/11 but the way I can make todo lists work for me is to reframe their purpose as one of "relieving me from chores" rather than "assigning me chores"

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@joepie91 @schratze @gsuberland thanks, I bookmarked it but to be honest I also bookmarked like 30 other posts that I never went back to 💀

Hope I'll go back to this? 😅

@hazelnot @schratze @gsuberland For this sort of thing I've found it easier to just read it immediately when I encounter it, instead of filing it away - often the "having to remember to look at this" ends up costing more spoons than just assessing it immediately (and only marking it for later processing if it looks helpful). May not work like that for everyone though.

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