@tastytea@very.tastytea.de To clarify on the Alklanet thing, it looks expensive but that's because it's commercial cleaner, much more strongly concentrated than typical supermarket stuff, so you just spray it and use much less of it. In the end it's cheaper even if a bottle costs more. Replaces general-purpose cleaners and window cleaners pretty much entirely, you can also replicate it very closely yourself: https://revspace.nl/Klarinet