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people on bluesky are weirdly emotionally invested in mastodon failing

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re: bluesky, kind of rambling off 

@eniko I'm seeing the same thing in the other direction in various parts of fedi as well, honestly. Here the comments range from "don't complain about Bluesky, it's fine" to "Bluesky must die at any cost". A part of those comments definitely cross into "toxic and unnecessarily hostile", and at times are also racist, unfortunately.

I'm kind of somewhere inbetween; I am not hoping for Bluesky to fail, so much as I am *expecting* it to fail (because it chooses short-term impressions over long-term sustainability, and eventually the runway will run out, as it always does), and I'm hoping that enough people will realize this and have a chance to find better options before things are actually on fire.

Whether fedi is that better option, I'm honestly not sure. On paper, yes, it is, but in practice there's this big elephant in the room (no pun intended) that's called Mastodon and its horrible governance around things like moderation features. That's fine for a subset of people but definitely not for everyone.

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re: bluesky, kind of rambling off 

@joepie91 yeah im also not ok with people on here rooting for bluesky to fail. it's not productive and just kind of mean, and bsky failing wouldn't mean people would pour into fedi (and if it did i don't think those people would enjoy it anyway)

but i do understand some eyerolling at bluesky since it's very clear it's just repeating the same old mistakes again

re: bluesky, kind of rambling off 

@eniko @joepie91

I think the frustration stems from fedi people is that when mastodon was present, even tech literate and people aware of the issues that caused the enshittification of twitter strongly opposed trying it or tried it in a way that America tried the metric system and then stamped their feet in the ground when it didn't work to what they were use to. This was all on the back of frustration and anger at twitter, so people who didn't get the 1:1 experience that they were searching for saw this as a worse solution.

This has also been grouped with an overlap of the people who rejected mastodon at the time moving to bluesky and also pushing a bunch of bluesky propaganda (I say this in a way where they outline features that didn't exist or didn't exist at the time and other nonsense). This is usually along with some random/baseless assertion that "it's different this time", "it's safer" or something to rationalise their belief in that system over the other without any real proof (or make it hard to absolutely disprove until something happens).

It's not all that but it is likely that most here on fedi have experienced a few people who fit the above description. While I doubt people want others to suffer, they are likely getting some enjoyment from their misfortune.

re: bluesky, kind of rambling off 

@ahto @eniko @joepie91 Yup, can confirm that part of my opinion on Bluesky have strongly been built by people pushing it in my face right here, at a time I was rebuilding my bubble around my new self, was really into making new friends here, and the last thing I wanted was seeing all around a "oh, no, this place is meh, come see the new shiny thing that does the same as here and the good old Twitter thing at the same time!"

re: bluesky, kind of rambling off 

@silvermoon82 @joepie91 @eniko (relevant repost:)

As much as I agree with the expectation of Bluesky's inevitable enshitification, I really REALLY hope we're all wrong.😮‍💨

I WANT to be wrong about the trajectory of all privately-owned social media platforms.

I WANT there to be another way forward, thru the sinkhole of greed that consumed all before.

...but I just can't see one, right now, & can't bear the thought of riding another train into that pit.😞

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