@jdp23 Thanks! All of those make sense, and that clarifies a lot.

I also wasn't aware that Twitter did any word filtering at all. I guess I'd assumed it didn't due to the large amount of slurs I still regularly encountered there. But perhaps their list just wasn't very complete.

@joepie91 @jdp23

I could never get filtering to work over there as well as it has here. But that might be a browser or computer issue. Not so much about the quality of the platform itself.

@chriscoreline I've posted it as a standalone question (as I've seen recommended by at least one Black person, incidentally) instead of in someone's replies specifically to avoid this.

I'm also specifically asking because I've been unable to find an answer on this over the past months, and if I want to be able to contribute towards a solution, I can't wait for the answer to magically appear forever - this is a problem *right now*.

@joepie91 the foundations of the answer you are seeking is in the many many books on the matter

Ill offer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_I%27m_No_Longer_Talking_to_White_People_About_Race as a start point; its not really a foundational text because it sounds like you are arriving with a lot of thought on the matter already.

@chriscoreline Great, but a) I am disabled and generally cannot read whole books, and b) I *am* already learning about the basic issues but those crucially do not answer the *very specific* question that I asked in the original post, and like I mentioned, this is a problem *now* and perpetually waiting for the answer to magically coalesce is not really an option.

This whole discussion is kind of moot anyway, because the question was already answered - by a white person, I might add, whom I trust to derive their explanations from what non-white folks have said, as the post asked for - and so I have the answer I was looking for now.

@joepie91 Sorry, i wasnt aware you were facing difficulties accessing the literature on the matter and i made an assumption that you like so many others were expecting free labour from the victims of the same oppression that caused white supremacy in the first place.

im glad you got an answer from a more trusting person and i hope you use that knowledge to help tackle opression

@chriscoreline @joepie91 "i will not do that labor for you" sure did irreversible harm to leftism and antibigotry

"listen to BIPOC/queer/disabled/otherwise marginalized people" but also "asking is telling them to do labor for you". but you know, if you're not asking then you are more prone to repeating bigoted rhetoric, often without realizing it. and i am pretty sure that marginalized people know best about their situation instead of allies, no?

you know. qui rogat non errat.

@alexander @chriscoreline I mean, I agree with the idea that you shouldn't *expect* marginalized folks to explain things to you, because it *does* create an unreasonable amount of pressure on the most vulnerable folks, who constantly have to explain themselves.

But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be asking anything anymore at all either, because that creates the problem you describe where the proper solutions are unknown to people, hence trying to find ways (like the stand-alone question post) that ask but do not expect.

@joepie91 @chriscoreline i personally see nothing wrong with standalone asks. i'd rather have someone ask me a million times how is [insert trope] actually normalized ableism/sanism rather than repeat that trope because they didn't want to "give me labor"

not everyone is a master at finding resources. not everyone is able to read long manifestos.

if you can't put your query like you're explaining it to a 5 year old, your activism frankly sucks. we should all aim to be accessible if we want antibigotry activism to make any sense.

(AND TO FUCKING PREFACE THIS: this is not to say to entertain sealioning or concern trolling. fuck that shit.)